I don't think you did anything wrong, since I was just following the prefect route guide and didn't see and sea salt ice cream to select there either. I guess the main question now is whether its a bug or if they removed it for one reason or another
Sea salt ice-cream option was removed when Dzahn took control of the project. Considering the connection to Kingdom Hearts is quite heavy, he decided it would be better to not have it in there for now. We’re discussing how to proceed going forward.
I am a little disappointed with that decision but it's not my call to make and it does not effect all the great work everyone has placed into this. I do miss that extra point.
My guess is that they will either put it back once they put all the new sprites of the characters. Another possibility is that they plan on putting Special Scenes/Images in certain events, like for example, let said they put a Special Image of when Hiroyuki is peeking on Juuichi. At least that's my guesses since the NSFW Warning is on this page.
While we've indeed cut the sprites off at waist-level, this wasn't done in a move to get rid of the NSFW content, but simply for practicality's sake, as it made some of the smaller character barely peek through the dialogue box. Resizing them would have and having them keep everything below waist-level made some of them look freakishly large, so we've decided to follow in OG Morenatsu's footsteps, and cut them at the waist.
I really appreciate the art style and character changes, compared to the original Morenatsu. Most notable are Shin and Shun. Shin has a more refined design, and his personality is somewhat more fitting than in the original game. Shun was a cute character in the original game, but looked and acted like a kid, so I really love his new more mature design and personality, and creators still kept everything about him that made Shun - Shun.
Also, the protagonist being a furry is a welcome change,
Either way this has to be one of the best Furry VNs I've ever played.
Shun looks less like a minor, which I actually like more, and find way cuter than the possibly-8-year-old version in og morenatsu. At the same time everyone has a right to have an opinion, so if you find the old shun cuter, good for you ^^
it feels Shun & Shin is a whole different character , not even comparable to the OG Morenatsu . Shin talks too much and not as snappy as the OG Shun's way of thinking and the way he talks is too mature since he is supposed to be the youngest one. It's like the one who is the youngest is the MC itself.
Yes, it is. As mentioned in the notes for 6.5, we're actually planning something quite big, so the next update may take a bit of time, but I can guarantee the wait will be worth it.
For some reason, I can't seem to install the 6.5.1 update even though I can install the 6.5 version in the past. 90 gb of free space and I can download and install other visual novels just fine so I can't seem to figure out what's wrong. Playing on android.
Oh I absolutely love this game. I like each and every character so far and can't decide with who to go with. This game is so good!!
This may be a spoiler so please don't read it if you don't want to get spoiled:
But there is just one thing that is confusing me, who the hell is Nanafuse!!? He just appears randomly out of nowhere claiming he was with us in on scene with Shun, Tora and Kounosuke. Am I supposed to know who he is or what? Honestly he is kinda scary appearing out of nowhere and everyone don't find it stange? Is he a ghost? A friend that died a long time ago. I am so confused. Lol
He's an enigma. In the original Morenatsu, he was merely a mischievous spirit who was given form thanks to Hiroyuki and Shun. Because you could rename Hiroyuki in that version, his first name would match whatever you chose. However, as we've gone quite a different way with him, I can't exactly tell you who or what he is. :P
That is actually pretty neat and mysterious. Maybe in the revisited version there might by more to Nanafuse which could be absolutely amazing. So far in my time playing I have encountered him 4 time, each time confusing me a lot. Lol
Despite the question already being answered. Yeah, in the original, he's just a spirit given form by Shun and a name by Hiroyuki. And depending on who you go with during the test of courage, he'll either pop up as their old teacher Botan, show up once as Kounosuke, or show a glimpse of himself for a short few seconds. The problem is he's not meant to be recognized for exactly what he is.
If you do, he'll stop you and complete wipe all memory of him from you. But he will always show up when you least expect him.
If they do more to add to him, i'd be glad to see it. The only instances I've ever seen him play a deeper part is once during Juuichi's route and multiple times for Kounosuke's. But we'll have to wait and see what the creators do with him here.
That is actually pretty neat and mysterious. Maybe in the revisited version there might by more to Nanafuse which could be absolutely amazing. So far in my time playing I have encountered him 4 time, each time confusing me a lot. Lol
Heyy I got a suggestion, can u guys make some intense NSFW moments?? Like animations or pick an action (😏) something like that? This will not affect how the story goes afterward, just purely for fun. Hope this make it in the game 😂
PS: The game is really good man, brings back some memories from the old morenatsu, keep it up Stormsinger!! Tatsuki is super hot in this remake 😳🥵
It is highly recommended as new condition flags may be added in newer builds. I do acknowledge that this isn’t ideal, and you are free to use your existing saves, but you do so at your own risk. The likelihood of errors increases exponentially when using an older save in a newer build.
Its probably something on renpy´s end but, i been playing the ios ver. and in the newest update the screen isnt full screen, it makes certain buttons harder to press, tho its probably because i am using an iphone 7, and it still has a home button so it doesnt fill the front of the phone, that might be cause of the resizing.
Thank you for reporting that. I have run a search and found it has been a bit of an issue in the past for other Ren'Py projects, but is easily fixed. I have implemented this adjustment and it should hopefully be rectified by the next build release.
Small rant on accessibility issues, beware of potential spoilers:
I have to say: as someone with mobility issues, QTE's in VN's feels so out of place, especially for those of us who regularly use eye tracking / voice control / other special control systems to use our PC's
Luckily I can use a mouse, my issue is just with using one for more than an hour or two, but suddenly missing a QTE out of seemingly nowhere because the eye tracking "click" action takes a second, and then having to dig out a mouse, load a save and try again isn't too fun.
I'd like to see more authors add an option in preferences to either prolong the time you have to react to these events / a way to disable these events, if possible :)
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Other than this, I'm loving this one so far :D
Edit: or add the option to use the keyboard to activate the button, as it seemed to ignore the usual arrows + enter to click....
This is actually a good criticism, and as a matter of fact, I'm considering coding in a way for using 1/2/3, or something similar for those QTEs. This may take a bit of time to get sorted, but thank you for bringing it to my attention. The last thing I want to do is be exclusive to those who need to use alternatives to clicking.
If you're talking about using saves from 6.5 with 6.5.1, you can do so without issue, as no additional flags were added into the game between these versions. However, aside from that, it is not recommended to use save files from a previous build, as there is a higher potential for game-breaking errors.
I know that this game doesn't have a set schedule and Santa Lucia is the main focus, but are you going to try and keep a decently steady upload schedule? Not a firm one, but just a "we're going to try and upload every two months" or something. This game is great and I love it a lot, and I would just like to know if you're trying to keep a schedule or not.
I'd like to quote this line which is in the project description on this page:
Homecoming is a work in progress. Since we're a team of volunteers, work proceeds when we have the available time to spare. Because of this, it is unwise to commit to a rigid schedule. We will try to release an update at least once every two months, though with our rough schedules the periods can vary wildly. We thank you for your patience while we develop Homecoming!
I am glad that you are enjoying what has been released so far, and would like to assure you that we're working on this when we can, and while we can't exactly commit to a firm schedule, we will push out each release as soon as we can.
Out of all the weird character design changes, especially with Shun and aging him for what... US sensibilities? Why doesn't Kouya wink! That's his trademark. Also it's weird that you still kept was Kyouji's eyes closed, which I always hated that he never opens his eyes... makes it hard to connect with him. Also Kouya's face needs some work. The improvements of the characters I like are Kounosuke, Shin, and Soutarou. But yes they're all supposed to be high school students like the protagonist so making Shun 18 when he's supposed to be the youngest makes zero sense... also isn't Hiroyuki (you) supposed to be human? I always thought it was a self-insert.
Nota lot of people liked Shun being 16 also with maybe future content do you really wanna see Shun naked if he was 16? In the game Shun said he turned 18 a month ago so he technically is still the youngest. I do agree with you on Kouya though, He needs a little work on his design but that can wait until the story is finishes, I would like to have the story finished then them takeing the time to fix Kouya.
Regarding the character designs, we have stated on multiple occasions that these are subject to change. In addition, the reason Kouya doesn't wink is because we haven't provided that image yet. As far as the code goes, Kouya does have calls for a winking sprite, but for the moment, the image it uses is just his smiling sprite. Again, this is just temporary until we get additional sprite work done.
With Kyouji, we decided we wanted to keep his eyes similar to the original for one main reason. In Japan, "fox eyes" is a common trope used to identify when a character is very wise and reliable. Both of these are intrinsic qualities for Kyouji, and so, it was deemed appropriate to keep them like that.
The aging up of characters was done for one major reason: legality. While the national age of consent in Japan is 13, all prefectures have overridden this with their own age, most of which are around 17-18. While the original team could have gotten away with having sexual interaction with a 16 year old (who acts like an 8 year old), we won't. Not to mention, Soutarou was originally the youngest at 15, so yeah...there's that too. Now, Shun is the youngest of the group, even if he is 18, because he was the last to have his 18th birthday.
Finally, Hiroyuki: Originally, he was a self-insert, but therein lies the problem. Self-inserts are notoriously difficult to write for, especially for consistency purposes. The original game, as much as all of us in Stormsinger Studios enjoyed it, suffers from an extreme level of inconsistencies, especially where Hiroyuki is concerned. To remedy this, it was felt that making him have a specific personality and removing the self-insert aspects would be best. We have mentioned multiple times in the past about why we removed humans entirely. You can see this in the FAQ (which does admittedly need updating a bit).
Thanks a lot for the detailed response! I agree with most of it. The aging up is weird but yeah... legal reasons. It's much more acceptable in Japan to like younger characters as it's all fantasy. I would have preferred to have this game as a sequel then a remake.
I'm really enjoying the game so far. I do have a question though.
Are there any plan to make the "route" a bit more clear? Like in the original, how you used the map and could see who you're mainly hanging out with for an event. I noticed there are a few events where you go to them, and to get to the other event you have to blindly decline. Instead of making it blind, maybe adding a hint as to what happens if you "go do something else." Because sometimes the declines are just full event skips where there is no other alternate event, or it is a different event with a bunch of other characters, and it's really hard to tell without rewinding and checking both paths. I can understand some of the mystery, but it's annoying when "Not today" could mean "I go for a walk and find an entirely different event" or "I go home and sleep for the rest of the day.
I ran into this issue that then ran into a bunch of others after hitting ignore (this was after choosing not to do what comes up in the shop and occurs a few lines after exiting said shop on the 10th).
Yeah, this is unfortunately a bit of a bug with the Android build, which I will be rectifying ASAP. Tom (the creator of Ren'Py) has advised that the latest version of Ren'Py should fix this issue, and I will be releasing an update soon with this fix. Think of this future version as 6.5.1.
The unfortunate part is that I don't have an Android device myself. My family do, but they'd object to me using their devices as test subjects.
Unfortunately, you will need to start fresh, as your save files aren't compatible with this update. The warning at the beginning mentions that it may be possible to Ignore your way past any errors, but this is not a guarantee.
Is there any rough estimation on the perfect route return date? The new update meant that I lost all my saves and if the guides are gonna be back shortly then I might just wait for them and use them to skip back to where I was.
That dark orange sun is a placeholder. It is meant to indicate "early afternoon/pre-sunset". Once I think of an image to use to replace it, it'll be gone.
The UI showing us what we did is good or bad for a route is amazing.
But some people don't enjoy too much the feeling of being hand held, so, just to be sure, next update, add an option to justt hide those notifications. Shouldn't be so hard, and the more options we have the better anyway <3
The option is there and has been there since the very first iteration of the Telltale system. Go into Preferences, and under Friendship Popups, set it to Off.
The april fools build is meant as a joke. It's extremely over-the-top in its sexual content, there's no real story to it, it's just about how much everyone wants to have sex with the main character. The artwork is also of a lower quality to the main game.
Though being honest, your spelling and grammar make me wonder if english is just your second/third/fourth language, or if you're too young to be playing this to begin with...
1. Sorry but how can i download the new build with all of my progres?
2. The april fools build will it chang somthing i mean will it be permanent in a way that i i will need to download the reel build and start all over agine ore i can after that delet the april fools build and start frome when i stopd?
I wish they'd update the google doc. It says it was last updated september of last year, but the last update to the game was november of last year.
I'm fine with them taking their time and making this good, but transparency goes a long way and knowing the accurate state of things at the moment helps with waiting.
Hey, I'm a bit late to the show, but I'd like to apologize for not updating the Google doc in a timely fashion. I had forgotten which email address I used for it (I have quite a few, hehe), and then eventually forgot about it.
I have since updated the document to show what is currently in progress. Hopefully it will give you some more insight.
Will there be "Ten's Route" in this Remake? I know it's a demo, but honestly... the remaster was amazing, and I was just wondering if there would be "new routes" in this remake? 🤔
Huh, people are still playing old morenatsu? I'm so glad I'm not the only one willing to let this gem die. Ten's route caught me completely off guard when it first came out on the revisited version (not this one) and I loved every second of it lol it gave me hope that morenatsu will be completed someday.
P.S: Cheers from a kitty to another... E de um Br para outro uwu
Baixei a uns anos atrás mas tinha esquecido no HD. Fui fazer uma limpeza e achei entrei outros jogos e outras duas versões de Morenatsu (uma que tem que usar o programa para rodar versão japonêsa, a qual foi a primeira estória furre que joguei. A que tem quase todas as rotas completas só faltando 3, do cão, do Leão e do tigrão. =^.~= ).
Já aqui no Itch fiz uma listinha com mais de 300, misturados com jogos e quadrinhos. As vezes comento com algumas pessoas que encontro no Second Life sobre isso.
Miando,
Pandrine
P.S.: Nasceu em 2020! Hehe Está no seu perfil. =^.~=
Uai tu baixa e esquece no HD por anos? Kkkkkkkk oh céus parece algo que eu faria. Minha primeira versão foi a japonesa também, precisa rodar com o Locale emulator. Coincidentemente morenatsu foi meu primeiro VN (acho que também foi de muitos). Infelizmente a rota que eu mais queria do nosso amado husbando torahiko nunca saiu :(
P.S: Não se deixe enganar uwu, o perfil pode ter nascido em 2020... mas, venho jogando bem antes que isso, morenatsu joguei em 2014/15. Começei a jogar outros vn la pra 2018 também. Criei a conta pq já estava começando a acompanhar vários criadores (e era um saco procurar 1 por 1).
Miau, só quis avisar que você deve ter digitado 2020 no lugar de 00 pois disse que tinha 20 anos. Hehe Imaginei que nasceu em 2000. =^.~= É o testo que você escreveu no seu perfil.
Eu lembro de ter jogado para pegar o tigrão mas só nos meus sonhos. Falando de sonhos lembro que sonhei com o urso Juiichi quando estava jogando a rota dele. Ele vinha perto e min e passava a pata no meu traseiro. Acho que desenhei um e coloquei no Deviant Ser mas não era o Juiichi.
Apesar da rota dele só ter saído na outra versão mais curtinha quando vai pela rota do Juiichi.
Mas para rodar o jogo eu usei um programa que permitia os caracteres funcionarem. Um programa chamado HF pAppLoc. Se for isso.
Miando,
Pandrine
P.S.: Tenho jogado uns jogos abandonados e tirando da lista para outra que nomeie de algo do tipo Furre Abandonados.
For the nsfw question there isn't really any. for Koya's route on the beach trip you see him naked also when you go with Tora for swimming you see a naked and cute otter.
Usually, in Visual Novels that focuses a little more on the story, you have more of a tease during the story and only gets nsfw at the end. That's the way normal VN's do. But some are kinda putting the NSFW in the entire VN. But since this is Morenatsu, they will probably add the NSFW at the end only.
I'm sorry but I'm extremely confused, is this game (the actual game not the April fools update recently released) dead? Or is it still being updated but only for those who pay for it?
I just checked this online, most people do NOT turn 18 in their junior year. Japan's highschool still ends off at 18 like America's. Also most of the cast were underage in the original, so you'll forgive me if I'm not so quick to believe that's anything but a "I promise all characters are totally technically legal guys! They all are exactly 18 and there for its ok!" Considering again, they're juniors going on seniors and there for would be at the same age they were in the original, aka minors.
I get what you saying but since the original was not really legal ages Stormsinger did change most of the characters to 18. Some of them already passed high school I believe Juuichi and Tatsuki.
The description explicitly says entering senior year. They could have easily made it so they were entering college. Its still a porn game about high schoolers. Anyone can use all the thermian arguments to justify why its technically legal, but its still a porn game about highschoolers. College exists and is for adults if an academic setting is needed or they need to be students. The fact that the creator said they're 18 proves my point. They would only do that if they know making porn of minors is wrong or knows people will rightfully criticize then for making porn of underaged teens. They want them to be highschoolers, be in a grade where they would reasonably be 16/17 like in the original, but still had to clarify that they are technically legal. If a creator has to clarify that the characters are technically legal despite all common sense saying otherwise, that truly speaks volumes.
This is more preemptive and not directed at you specifically; I'm not slinging insults or being vague and unreasonable. I'm leveling serious criticism that any artistic would would face upon reaching the public. If the artist/creator cannot reasonably justify why making them high schoolers in a pornographic game is needed and the work would be worse without it being porn of high schoolers, then why are they teenagers in highschool. If they were 18 then they'd be graduating. Its just that simple. A throw away line simply highlights the fact that the criticism was valid enough that it needed to be addressed, Because again: This is a porn game about highschool juniors(typically 16/17), based on a porn game primarily filled with underaged characters.
God, your straight up just looking for reasons to be offended at this point, clearly more interested in being "right" (which you actually aren't) than you are in actually educating yourself about the topic you're virtue signaling over. The fact that you're entire argument hinges on a specific (and incorrect) interpretation of less than 10 words should be a sign that you're point might not actually be that defensible - like a sandcastle facing against a moderately sized wave.
News flash, school starts in the spring in Japan - in April, to be more specific - not in the fall like in the west. Since the game takes place over the characters' summer break in August, that means that the characters have all been in their senior year for about four months; plenty of time for all the characters to have had their 18th birthdays, which, by the by, can quite often occur during one's senior year or even leading up to it; you're circumstances and experiences are not universal. The characters weren't legal in the OG Morenatsu, but this is not the OG Morenatsu, so it's not fundamentally right (in any way) to judge it as such. Nevermind the fact that this game, in fact, is not actually set in our real world, and that the schooling of a foreign country in a fictional alternate universe populated by anthropomorphic animals - including mythical creatures such as dragons - could very well be different in some aspects compared to your own frame of reference.
Furthermore, a person's level of schooling doesn't invalidate the legal prospects of their age. Would you be making this much of a fuss if the characters were all 40-year-olds who re-enrolled in high school after dropping out when they were younger? No, of course you wouldn't, because that would be beyond ridiculous. If the concept of "suspension of disbelief" is that difficult for you to comprehend, then just don't play; it's literally as simple as that.
If you're that desperate to rip into a game for problematic content, how about going after something like After Class for blatantly admitting that Gil was sexually harassing the MC and other high school students throughout MC's entire high school career? Or maybe the Lagoon Lounge games - both OG and remake - for their veritable laundry list of issues and problematic content, including but not limited to sexual assault, rape, mind control, corporate espionage, and - in the case of the OG games - actual pedophilia involving actual minors?
If you want to be offended by something, that's your prerogative, knock yourself out. But keep your "BuT tHeIr In HiGh ScHoOl So ThEy'Re AcTuAlLy MiNoRs" bs to yourself; no-one here asked for you to spew your SJW preaching in the comments, so get off your soap-box and just be quiet, because nobody is actually listening to you. Just leave your 1-star review and scurry off back to your Tumbr blog or Twitter account or wherever it is you crawled here from.
Congratulations, if you are actually bitching about school and their age then I award with the trophy of the "saddest life in the world". It's just so stupid I don't even know what to say. Is it so hard to just close the browser tab instead of looking for reasons to bitch and complain? God, you are so awful... Ugh I'm disgusted
"The fact that the creator said they're 18 proves my point. They would only do that if they know making porn of minors is wrong or knows people will rightfully criticize then for making porn of underaged teens."
Well damn, I wouldn't want to look at anything that was depicting people having sex while underage! Where are they again? Japan? Okay, so the age of consent is... ::quick Google search:: ...12 years old. Glad we cleared that up!
Seriously, the only reason for the "all characters are a certain age" disclaimer is to make sure it's not violating any laws, which change from region to region. Even within the US, there are plenty of areas where people can legally have sex as young as 14, as long as it's not with anyone more than a few years older than them. The disclaimer just avoids the headache.
I don't think you should care much about it. Since the character are characters and not real people on a screen.
That is a fiction after all.
Only that people under age shouldn't play those games. (Without parents permission!) and that game aren't even porn since the original had only two sex scenes per route and not all routes had those two those just showing a piece of life.
Add the characters are not even humans.
Maybe if that showed a real teenager 13 years old having sex with a 40 years old real person in a photo or video. But I do remember some king centuries ago married with a 13 woman somewhere in Europe.
I played this game when I was 15 :) I still don't understand what's the matter about they being underage. It's not like they are kids, they are almost adults at 16 yo.
I'm not gonna lie, I am very much grateful that someone is trying their best to bring back the love and joy from our past. True I don't like certain aspects of the game either but then again, I don't see anyone else making a game soooooo yeah. To the developer and their team or if they're solo, wonderful stuff, keep up the excellent work.
Ayy on Twitter frost got a new keyboard and he said he has intentions of adding a little extra he also said please look forward to it. (For those who do not have or look at twitter.)
I doubt they have a patreon for this game specifically. Morenatsu is not their property, making a fan-game is one thing (a risky thing by the way because your work can be ultimately thrown into the trash if the owners of the original game decide to sue for example) but a fan-game that makes money with it is deffinitely something the original owners would fall on to stop right away. You can't just borrow someone else's project just because it was canceled and start making money with it. The legal issue can be really threatening.
I'm pretty sure they have a patreon for the other project they have though, Santa Lucia I think the name is.
The creators cant sue the developers are putting their own stuff on the game. In the copyright law it says u are allowed to take a project/video/music/etc and add ur own thing to it. (Hence reaction channels are a thing)
hey! So I was playing the game and the end came out of nowhere? So I just wonder if the game will continue or it got cancelled? Otherwise it’s such a good game, with a good storyline!
The mod isn't dead, sometimes it just takes a few months for an update to come out. This is a free vn and people have a lot of other commitments and personal situations, so just be patient.
idk why they changed the art up so drastically but they really did my mans kouya dirty. other than that its a decent continuation of the story and honestly a fun revisit to a classic. I'd love to see someone mod in the original artworks tho ngl.
I have a theory about Kouya: They don't like him. At least, that's it. The change on the protagonist for him to be a fox is also not good on my eyes.
That being said, the design of the game is something you get used to, I prefer the Torahiko of this version better than the original, but Kouya on the original is better designwise. The personality though is the same.
This is in the end, a fan free of charge project with artwork, music and all of that complete, so we cannot complain. Let's just be happy they are trying to finish the original game with their own version of it and trying to be original. The script of the story is also good, and there's no more horrible questionable rape endings too, which is good. And no one is way underage now, everyone above 17.
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Am i doing something Wrong or you removed sea salt icecream in soutaru route? Now there Is chocholate or macha choice only
I don't think you did anything wrong, since I was just following the prefect route guide and didn't see and sea salt ice cream to select there either. I guess the main question now is whether its a bug or if they removed it for one reason or another
Sea salt ice-cream option was removed when Dzahn took control of the project. Considering the connection to Kingdom Hearts is quite heavy, he decided it would be better to not have it in there for now. We’re discussing how to proceed going forward.
I am a little disappointed with that decision but it's not my call to make and it does not effect all the great work everyone has placed into this. I do miss that extra point.
Is there a reason all the NSFW was taken out?
Removed window mode?
Will this new build have new content?
Also is it true that this new build gets rid of NSFW content?
where did you see it? Apparently yes, I do not know why
My guess is that they will either put it back once they put all the new sprites of the characters. Another possibility is that they plan on putting Special Scenes/Images in certain events, like for example, let said they put a Special Image of when Hiroyuki is peeking on Juuichi. At least that's my guesses since the NSFW Warning is on this page.
Thanks for the answer.
Hey there!
While we've indeed cut the sprites off at waist-level, this wasn't done in a move to get rid of the NSFW content, but simply for practicality's sake, as it made some of the smaller character barely peek through the dialogue box. Resizing them would have and having them keep everything below waist-level made some of them look freakishly large, so we've decided to follow in OG Morenatsu's footsteps, and cut them at the waist.
Thank you all for understanding,
- Devilizer
Will there still be other NSFW images and/or scenes in future content and builds?
"Having them keep everything below waist level made some of them look freakishly large"
Awww.... why you gotta call out Juuichi like that. 😉
Oh please, let Ten have his own route.
I really appreciate the art style and character changes, compared to the original Morenatsu. Most notable are Shin and Shun. Shin has a more refined design, and his personality is somewhat more fitting than in the original game. Shun was a cute character in the original game, but looked and acted like a kid, so I really love his new more mature design and personality, and creators still kept everything about him that made Shun - Shun.
Also, the protagonist being a furry is a welcome change,
Either way this has to be one of the best Furry VNs I've ever played.
imo Shun looks less cute in this style, Shin's design too
Shun looks less like a minor, which I actually like more, and find way cuter than the possibly-8-year-old version in og morenatsu. At the same time everyone has a right to have an opinion, so if you find the old shun cuter, good for you ^^
it feels Shun & Shin is a whole different character , not even comparable to the OG Morenatsu .
Shin talks too much and not as snappy as the OG
Shun's way of thinking and the way he talks is too mature since he is supposed to be the youngest one. It's like the one who is the youngest is the MC itself.
Is this VN still alive?
yes is still alive
Yes, it is. As mentioned in the notes for 6.5, we're actually planning something quite big, so the next update may take a bit of time, but I can guarantee the wait will be worth it.
Good to hear, just wanted to be sure
For some reason, I can't seem to install the 6.5.1 update even though I can install the 6.5 version in the past. 90 gb of free space and I can download and install other visual novels just fine so I can't seem to figure out what's wrong. Playing on android.
Oh I absolutely love this game. I like each and every character so far and can't decide with who to go with. This game is so good!!
This may be a spoiler so please don't read it if you don't want to get spoiled:
But there is just one thing that is confusing me, who the hell is Nanafuse!!? He just appears randomly out of nowhere claiming he was with us in on scene with Shun, Tora and Kounosuke. Am I supposed to know who he is or what? Honestly he is kinda scary appearing out of nowhere and everyone don't find it stange? Is he a ghost? A friend that died a long time ago. I am so confused. Lol
He's an enigma. In the original Morenatsu, he was merely a mischievous spirit who was given form thanks to Hiroyuki and Shun. Because you could rename Hiroyuki in that version, his first name would match whatever you chose. However, as we've gone quite a different way with him, I can't exactly tell you who or what he is. :P
That is actually pretty neat and mysterious. Maybe in the revisited version there might by more to Nanafuse which could be absolutely amazing. So far in my time playing I have encountered him 4 time, each time confusing me a lot. Lol
Despite the question already being answered. Yeah, in the original, he's just a spirit given form by Shun and a name by Hiroyuki. And depending on who you go with during the test of courage, he'll either pop up as their old teacher Botan, show up once as Kounosuke, or show a glimpse of himself for a short few seconds. The problem is he's not meant to be recognized for exactly what he is.
If you do, he'll stop you and complete wipe all memory of him from you. But he will always show up when you least expect him.
If they do more to add to him, i'd be glad to see it. The only instances I've ever seen him play a deeper part is once during Juuichi's route and multiple times for Kounosuke's. But we'll have to wait and see what the creators do with him here.
That is actually pretty neat and mysterious. Maybe in the revisited version there might by more to Nanafuse which could be absolutely amazing. So far in my time playing I have encountered him 4 time, each time confusing me a lot. Lol
Heyy I got a suggestion, can u guys make some intense NSFW moments?? Like animations or pick an action (😏) something like that? This will not affect how the story goes afterward, just purely for fun. Hope this make it in the game 😂
PS: The game is really good man, brings back some memories from the old morenatsu, keep it up Stormsinger!! Tatsuki is super hot in this remake 😳🥵
when i download a new build i need to start over?
It is highly recommended as new condition flags may be added in newer builds. I do acknowledge that this isn’t ideal, and you are free to use your existing saves, but you do so at your own risk. The likelihood of errors increases exponentially when using an older save in a newer build.
Its probably something on renpy´s end but, i been playing the ios ver. and in the newest update the screen isnt full screen, it makes certain buttons harder to press, tho its probably because i am using an iphone 7, and it still has a home button so it doesnt fill the front of the phone, that might be cause of the resizing.
Thank you for reporting that. I have run a search and found it has been a bit of an issue in the past for other Ren'Py projects, but is easily fixed. I have implemented this adjustment and it should hopefully be rectified by the next build release.
Am I the only one that finds strange that everyone else has nipples, but Juuichi doesn't?
No you are not🗿
Small rant on accessibility issues, beware of potential spoilers:
I have to say: as someone with mobility issues, QTE's in VN's feels so out of place, especially for those of us who regularly use eye tracking / voice control / other special control systems to use our PC's
Luckily I can use a mouse, my issue is just with using one for more than an hour or two, but suddenly missing a QTE out of seemingly nowhere because the eye tracking "click" action takes a second, and then having to dig out a mouse, load a save and try again isn't too fun.
I'd like to see more authors add an option in preferences to either prolong the time you have to react to these events / a way to disable these events, if possible :)
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Other than this, I'm loving this one so far :D
Edit: or add the option to use the keyboard to activate the button, as it seemed to ignore the usual arrows + enter to click....
This is actually a good criticism, and as a matter of fact, I'm considering coding in a way for using 1/2/3, or something similar for those QTEs. This may take a bit of time to get sorted, but thank you for bringing it to my attention. The last thing I want to do is be exclusive to those who need to use alternatives to clicking.
+1
How can i download the new build with my progress from the other build?
If you're talking about using saves from 6.5 with 6.5.1, you can do so without issue, as no additional flags were added into the game between these versions. However, aside from that, it is not recommended to use save files from a previous build, as there is a higher potential for game-breaking errors.
I know that this game doesn't have a set schedule and Santa Lucia is the main focus, but are you going to try and keep a decently steady upload schedule? Not a firm one, but just a "we're going to try and upload every two months" or something. This game is great and I love it a lot, and I would just like to know if you're trying to keep a schedule or not.
I'd like to quote this line which is in the project description on this page:
Homecoming is a work in progress. Since we're a team of volunteers, work proceeds when we have the available time to spare. Because of this, it is unwise to commit to a rigid schedule. We will try to release an update at least once every two months, though with our rough schedules the periods can vary wildly. We thank you for your patience while we develop Homecoming!
I am glad that you are enjoying what has been released so far, and would like to assure you that we're working on this when we can, and while we can't exactly commit to a firm schedule, we will push out each release as soon as we can.
Out of all the weird character design changes, especially with Shun and aging him for what... US sensibilities? Why doesn't Kouya wink! That's his trademark. Also it's weird that you still kept was Kyouji's eyes closed, which I always hated that he never opens his eyes... makes it hard to connect with him. Also Kouya's face needs some work. The improvements of the characters I like are Kounosuke, Shin, and Soutarou. But yes they're all supposed to be high school students like the protagonist so making Shun 18 when he's supposed to be the youngest makes zero sense... also isn't Hiroyuki (you) supposed to be human? I always thought it was a self-insert.
Nota lot of people liked Shun being 16 also with maybe future content do you really wanna see Shun naked if he was 16? In the game Shun said he turned 18 a month ago so he technically is still the youngest. I do agree with you on Kouya though, He needs a little work on his design but that can wait until the story is finishes, I would like to have the story finished then them takeing the time to fix Kouya.
Regarding the character designs, we have stated on multiple occasions that these are subject to change. In addition, the reason Kouya doesn't wink is because we haven't provided that image yet. As far as the code goes, Kouya does have calls for a winking sprite, but for the moment, the image it uses is just his smiling sprite. Again, this is just temporary until we get additional sprite work done.
With Kyouji, we decided we wanted to keep his eyes similar to the original for one main reason. In Japan, "fox eyes" is a common trope used to identify when a character is very wise and reliable. Both of these are intrinsic qualities for Kyouji, and so, it was deemed appropriate to keep them like that.
The aging up of characters was done for one major reason: legality. While the national age of consent in Japan is 13, all prefectures have overridden this with their own age, most of which are around 17-18. While the original team could have gotten away with having sexual interaction with a 16 year old (who acts like an 8 year old), we won't. Not to mention, Soutarou was originally the youngest at 15, so yeah...there's that too. Now, Shun is the youngest of the group, even if he is 18, because he was the last to have his 18th birthday.
Finally, Hiroyuki: Originally, he was a self-insert, but therein lies the problem. Self-inserts are notoriously difficult to write for, especially for consistency purposes. The original game, as much as all of us in Stormsinger Studios enjoyed it, suffers from an extreme level of inconsistencies, especially where Hiroyuki is concerned. To remedy this, it was felt that making him have a specific personality and removing the self-insert aspects would be best. We have mentioned multiple times in the past about why we removed humans entirely. You can see this in the FAQ (which does admittedly need updating a bit).
Thanks a lot for the detailed response! I agree with most of it. The aging up is weird but yeah... legal reasons. It's much more acceptable in Japan to like younger characters as it's all fantasy. I would have preferred to have this game as a sequel then a remake.
I'm really enjoying the game so far. I do have a question though.
Are there any plan to make the "route" a bit more clear? Like in the original, how you used the map and could see who you're mainly hanging out with for an event. I noticed there are a few events where you go to them, and to get to the other event you have to blindly decline. Instead of making it blind, maybe adding a hint as to what happens if you "go do something else." Because sometimes the declines are just full event skips where there is no other alternate event, or it is a different event with a bunch of other characters, and it's really hard to tell without rewinding and checking both paths. I can understand some of the mystery, but it's annoying when "Not today" could mean "I go for a walk and find an entirely different event" or "I go home and sleep for the rest of the day.
I ran into this issue that then ran into a bunch of others after hitting ignore (this was after choosing not to do what comes up in the shop and occurs a few lines after exiting said shop on the 10th).
Yeah, this is unfortunately a bit of a bug with the Android build, which I will be rectifying ASAP. Tom (the creator of Ren'Py) has advised that the latest version of Ren'Py should fix this issue, and I will be releasing an update soon with this fix. Think of this future version as 6.5.1.
The unfortunate part is that I don't have an Android device myself. My family do, but they'd object to me using their devices as test subjects.
ok so for the windows edition, i cant load my files, and it wont load any dialogue, keep pressing ignore and it doesnt load anything
Unfortunately, you will need to start fresh, as your save files aren't compatible with this update. The warning at the beginning mentions that it may be possible to Ignore your way past any errors, but this is not a guarantee.
damn… thank you
Great update . I love this game
Is there any rough estimation on the perfect route return date? The new update meant that I lost all my saves and if the guides are gonna be back shortly then I might just wait for them and use them to skip back to where I was.
Does the sun in the corner look more red or is it just me?
That dark orange sun is a placeholder. It is meant to indicate "early afternoon/pre-sunset". Once I think of an image to use to replace it, it'll be gone.
The UI showing us what we did is good or bad for a route is amazing.
But some people don't enjoy too much the feeling of being hand held, so, just to be sure, next update, add an option to justt hide those notifications. Shouldn't be so hard, and the more options we have the better anyway <3
Thanks for the update.
The option is there and has been there since the very first iteration of the Telltale system. Go into Preferences, and under Friendship Popups, set it to Off.
Dont wory im over 18 it gust that i not very good at english
So what is difrent between the april fools build to the build befor him?
The april fools build is meant as a joke. It's extremely over-the-top in its sexual content, there's no real story to it, it's just about how much everyone wants to have sex with the main character. The artwork is also of a lower quality to the main game.
Though being honest, your spelling and grammar make me wonder if english is just your second/third/fourth language, or if you're too young to be playing this to begin with...
1. Sorry but how can i download the new build with all of my progres?
2. The april fools build will it chang somthing i mean will it be permanent in a way that i i will need to download the reel build and start all over agine ore i can after that delet the april fools build and start frome when i stopd?
The april fool's day one is a completely seperate thing. It doesn't change your main program at all.
I wish they'd update the google doc. It says it was last updated september of last year, but the last update to the game was november of last year.
I'm fine with them taking their time and making this good, but transparency goes a long way and knowing the accurate state of things at the moment helps with waiting.
Hey, I'm a bit late to the show, but I'd like to apologize for not updating the Google doc in a timely fashion. I had forgotten which email address I used for it (I have quite a few, hehe), and then eventually forgot about it.
I have since updated the document to show what is currently in progress. Hopefully it will give you some more insight.
Again, apologies for the delay.
Will there be "Ten's Route" in this Remake? I know it's a demo, but honestly... the remaster was amazing, and I was just wondering if there would be "new routes" in this remake? 🤔
I think they said Ten's route won't be in this version, but they might add elemts from it into other routes instead.
Thinking about old stuff. I just played Ten's route to the end this week and finished today from it's very old/other version I got years ago.
Huh, people are still playing old morenatsu? I'm so glad I'm not the only one willing to let this gem die. Ten's route caught me completely off guard when it first came out on the revisited version (not this one) and I loved every second of it lol it gave me hope that morenatsu will be completed someday.
P.S: Cheers from a kitty to another... E de um Br para outro uwu
Rio de Janeiro, 6 de Maio de 2021
Miau,
Baixei a uns anos atrás mas tinha esquecido no HD. Fui fazer uma limpeza e achei entrei outros jogos e outras duas versões de Morenatsu (uma que tem que usar o programa para rodar versão japonêsa, a qual foi a primeira estória furre que joguei. A que tem quase todas as rotas completas só faltando 3, do cão, do Leão e do tigrão. =^.~= ).
Já aqui no Itch fiz uma listinha com mais de 300, misturados com jogos e quadrinhos. As vezes comento com algumas pessoas que encontro no Second Life sobre isso.
Miando,
Pandrine
P.S.: Nasceu em 2020! Hehe Está no seu perfil. =^.~=
Uai tu baixa e esquece no HD por anos? Kkkkkkkk oh céus parece algo que eu faria. Minha primeira versão foi a japonesa também, precisa rodar com o Locale emulator. Coincidentemente morenatsu foi meu primeiro VN (acho que também foi de muitos). Infelizmente a rota que eu mais queria do nosso amado husbando torahiko nunca saiu :(
P.S: Não se deixe enganar uwu, o perfil pode ter nascido em 2020... mas, venho jogando bem antes que isso, morenatsu joguei em 2014/15. Começei a jogar outros vn la pra 2018 também. Criei a conta pq já estava começando a acompanhar vários criadores (e era um saco procurar 1 por 1).
Miau, só quis avisar que você deve ter digitado 2020 no lugar de 00 pois disse que tinha 20 anos. Hehe Imaginei que nasceu em 2000. =^.~= É o testo que você escreveu no seu perfil.
Eu lembro de ter jogado para pegar o tigrão mas só nos meus sonhos. Falando de sonhos lembro que sonhei com o urso Juiichi quando estava jogando a rota dele. Ele vinha perto e min e passava a pata no meu traseiro. Acho que desenhei um e coloquei no Deviant Ser mas não era o Juiichi.
Apesar da rota dele só ter saído na outra versão mais curtinha quando vai pela rota do Juiichi.
Mas para rodar o jogo eu usei um programa que permitia os caracteres funcionarem. Um programa chamado HF pAppLoc. Se for isso.
Miando,
Pandrine
P.S.: Tenho jogado uns jogos abandonados e tirando da lista para outra que nomeie de algo do tipo Furre Abandonados.
is this game close to finishing in terms of updates?
also what characters have nsfw scenes and when?
Not really close at all.
Spoiler I think...
For the nsfw question there isn't really any. for Koya's route on the beach trip you see him naked also when you go with Tora for swimming you see a naked and cute otter.
Usually, in Visual Novels that focuses a little more on the story, you have more of a tease during the story and only gets nsfw at the end. That's the way normal VN's do. But some are kinda putting the NSFW in the entire VN. But since this is Morenatsu, they will probably add the NSFW at the end only.
I'm sorry but I'm extremely confused, is this game (the actual game not the April fools update recently released) dead? Or is it still being updated but only for those who pay for it?
stormsinger still plans on finishing the game, and updates are still being worked on.
"Before starting their senior year of highschool"
"This game is intended for players 18+"
So you can write porn about 16/17 year olds that cant be played by 16/17 year olds. Furry porn artists in a fucking nutshell
Acually there all 18 japan has only 3 years of high school and people mostly turn 18 in the junior year also the creator said there all 18 or older.
I just checked this online, most people do NOT turn 18 in their junior year. Japan's highschool still ends off at 18 like America's. Also most of the cast were underage in the original, so you'll forgive me if I'm not so quick to believe that's anything but a "I promise all characters are totally technically legal guys! They all are exactly 18 and there for its ok!" Considering again, they're juniors going on seniors and there for would be at the same age they were in the original, aka minors.
I get what you saying but since the original was not really legal ages Stormsinger did change most of the characters to 18. Some of them already passed high school I believe Juuichi and Tatsuki.
The description explicitly says entering senior year. They could have easily made it so they were entering college. Its still a porn game about high schoolers. Anyone can use all the thermian arguments to justify why its technically legal, but its still a porn game about highschoolers. College exists and is for adults if an academic setting is needed or they need to be students. The fact that the creator said they're 18 proves my point. They would only do that if they know making porn of minors is wrong or knows people will rightfully criticize then for making porn of underaged teens. They want them to be highschoolers, be in a grade where they would reasonably be 16/17 like in the original, but still had to clarify that they are technically legal. If a creator has to clarify that the characters are technically legal despite all common sense saying otherwise, that truly speaks volumes.
This is more preemptive and not directed at you specifically; I'm not slinging insults or being vague and unreasonable. I'm leveling serious criticism that any artistic would would face upon reaching the public. If the artist/creator cannot reasonably justify why making them high schoolers in a pornographic game is needed and the work would be worse without it being porn of high schoolers, then why are they teenagers in highschool. If they were 18 then they'd be graduating. Its just that simple. A throw away line simply highlights the fact that the criticism was valid enough that it needed to be addressed, Because again: This is a porn game about highschool juniors(typically 16/17), based on a porn game primarily filled with underaged characters.
God, your straight up just looking for reasons to be offended at this point, clearly more interested in being "right" (which you actually aren't) than you are in actually educating yourself about the topic you're virtue signaling over. The fact that you're entire argument hinges on a specific (and incorrect) interpretation of less than 10 words should be a sign that you're point might not actually be that defensible - like a sandcastle facing against a moderately sized wave.
News flash, school starts in the spring in Japan - in April, to be more specific - not in the fall like in the west. Since the game takes place over the characters' summer break in August, that means that the characters have all been in their senior year for about four months; plenty of time for all the characters to have had their 18th birthdays, which, by the by, can quite often occur during one's senior year or even leading up to it; you're circumstances and experiences are not universal. The characters weren't legal in the OG Morenatsu, but this is not the OG Morenatsu, so it's not fundamentally right (in any way) to judge it as such. Nevermind the fact that this game, in fact, is not actually set in our real world, and that the schooling of a foreign country in a fictional alternate universe populated by anthropomorphic animals - including mythical creatures such as dragons - could very well be different in some aspects compared to your own frame of reference.
Furthermore, a person's level of schooling doesn't invalidate the legal prospects of their age. Would you be making this much of a fuss if the characters were all 40-year-olds who re-enrolled in high school after dropping out when they were younger? No, of course you wouldn't, because that would be beyond ridiculous. If the concept of "suspension of disbelief" is that difficult for you to comprehend, then just don't play; it's literally as simple as that.
If you're that desperate to rip into a game for problematic content, how about going after something like After Class for blatantly admitting that Gil was sexually harassing the MC and other high school students throughout MC's entire high school career? Or maybe the Lagoon Lounge games - both OG and remake - for their veritable laundry list of issues and problematic content, including but not limited to sexual assault, rape, mind control, corporate espionage, and - in the case of the OG games - actual pedophilia involving actual minors?
If you want to be offended by something, that's your prerogative, knock yourself out. But keep your "BuT tHeIr In HiGh ScHoOl So ThEy'Re AcTuAlLy MiNoRs" bs to yourself; no-one here asked for you to spew your SJW preaching in the comments, so get off your soap-box and just be quiet, because nobody is actually listening to you. Just leave your 1-star review and scurry off back to your Tumbr blog or Twitter account or wherever it is you crawled here from.
Congratulations, if you are actually bitching about school and their age then I award with the trophy of the "saddest life in the world". It's just so stupid I don't even know what to say. Is it so hard to just close the browser tab instead of looking for reasons to bitch and complain? God, you are so awful... Ugh I'm disgusted
"The fact that the creator said they're 18 proves my point. They would only do that if they know making porn of minors is wrong or knows people will rightfully criticize then for making porn of underaged teens."
Well damn, I wouldn't want to look at anything that was depicting people having sex while underage! Where are they again? Japan? Okay, so the age of consent is... ::quick Google search:: ...12 years old. Glad we cleared that up!
Seriously, the only reason for the "all characters are a certain age" disclaimer is to make sure it's not violating any laws, which change from region to region. Even within the US, there are plenty of areas where people can legally have sex as young as 14, as long as it's not with anyone more than a few years older than them. The disclaimer just avoids the headache.
I don't think you should care much about it. Since the character are characters and not real people on a screen.
That is a fiction after all.
Only that people under age shouldn't play those games. (Without parents permission!) and that game aren't even porn since the original had only two sex scenes per route and not all routes had those two those just showing a piece of life.
Add the characters are not even humans.
Maybe if that showed a real teenager 13 years old having sex with a 40 years old real person in a photo or video. But I do remember some king centuries ago married with a 13 woman somewhere in Europe.
I played this game when I was 15 :)
I still don't understand what's the matter about they being underage. It's not like they are kids, they are almost adults at 16 yo.
sips tea*
i think only the old one had underage characters
Well, I'm have question ... in origin has special ending is ten route. So will be there any chance for his route (after finish everything)
Just curious no pressure.
Heyo. I believe there will be no intention to add Ten's route as it was just a little fun thing these creators wanted to add in the revisited version.
Okay~~ but so bad You know?, ending dialog could be another true ending. Because it has same scene like shin. Ahhhhh!
Yee. But such is life haha Oh well, I am excited what they have in store for the other characters in Homecoming.
I'm not gonna lie, I am very much grateful that someone is trying their best to bring back the love and joy from our past. True I don't like certain aspects of the game either but then again, I don't see anyone else making a game soooooo yeah. To the developer and their team or if they're solo, wonderful stuff, keep up the excellent work.
Ayy on Twitter frost got a new keyboard and he said he has intentions of adding a little extra he also said please look forward to it. (For those who do not have or look at twitter.)
Do you guys have a patreon?
I doubt they have a patreon for this game specifically. Morenatsu is not their property, making a fan-game is one thing (a risky thing by the way because your work can be ultimately thrown into the trash if the owners of the original game decide to sue for example) but a fan-game that makes money with it is deffinitely something the original owners would fall on to stop right away. You can't just borrow someone else's project just because it was canceled and start making money with it. The legal issue can be really threatening.
I'm pretty sure they have a patreon for the other project they have though, Santa Lucia I think the name is.
The creators cant sue the developers are putting their own stuff on the game. In the copyright law it says u are allowed to take a project/video/music/etc and add ur own thing to it. (Hence reaction channels are a thing)
hey! So I was playing the game and the end came out of nowhere? So I just wonder if the game will continue or it got cancelled? Otherwise it’s such a good game, with a good storyline!
The mod isn't dead, sometimes it just takes a few months for an update to come out. This is a free vn and people have a lot of other commitments and personal situations, so just be patient.
They're currently focusing on another visual novel, Santa Lucia. They haven't abandoned it.
Aw, that end came out of no-where. I was enjoying playing with Shun and Kouya
idk why they changed the art up so drastically but they really did my mans kouya dirty. other than that its a decent continuation of the story and honestly a fun revisit to a classic. I'd love to see someone mod in the original artworks tho ngl.
I have a theory about Kouya: They don't like him. At least, that's it. The change on the protagonist for him to be a fox is also not good on my eyes.
That being said, the design of the game is something you get used to, I prefer the Torahiko of this version better than the original, but Kouya on the original is better designwise. The personality though is the same.
This is in the end, a fan free of charge project with artwork, music and all of that complete, so we cannot complain. Let's just be happy they are trying to finish the original game with their own version of it and trying to be original. The script of the story is also good, and there's no more horrible questionable rape endings too, which is good. And no one is way underage now, everyone above 17.
well said buddy.......well said, im with you......
Give the people some time its only been two months also one of them has been in and out of the hospital.
Bruh the game is not dead, it will probably take some time cuz they are working on Santa Lucia for the time being.