I analyzed Carlos way too much because I love him lmao
I'm starting to think Carlos has a HUGE inferiority complex that he always hides behind a mask, that mask being his perpetual need to be a perfectionist. This is due to holding himself in such a high standard that he even thrusts this on others in order to feel superior by being the better example. It's his way of seeking validation, if he thinks of himself as better than other people then all his problems would just go away. That's why he's very overly critical towards the others (mostly Ben and Bryan), assumes the worst of people, highly competitive or the perpetual need to prove himself, mood swings, and even making others feel insecure of their abilities. So what happens when somebody calls him out for his BS or when he fails to meet his high standards? Well, that's when you get too see the real Carlos. After being called out by his brother about how his behavior caused pain in others, it's that realization that stabbed Carlos extremely hard (harder than his facial scar lmao) that he felt like he's nothing but a failure, being reminded all over again about how much of a burden he truly feels deep inside. Carlos already hates himself for being a gay man as he seems to repress it hard because he believes he brought shame to his family because of that, now add another cut through his skin about how he was the one who feels responsible for his brother's downfall. It's his choices and actions that he feels extremely guilty of, not to mention the anxiety he got from it, that he goes as far as to put people beneath him just to feel better about himself and once he realizes what a huge mistake he's been doing, it felt like everything had been crushed to pieces, he felt like he had no one due to pushing people away, he felt like no one truly cared for him, he felt alone, depressed and that he got nothing else to live for. Carlos would've broke down... if it wasn't for Ben being there for him (could you imagine if Carlos went alone to visit his brother, what would've happened to him instead..?). I find it ironic that Carlos believes that the actions of other people is what he sees as genuine yet Carlos is the least genuine person between the main love interests just solely based on his actions. If he's finally able to overcome his inferiority complex instead of hiding it by all that superiority then he could be so much happier. He's a deeply flawed yet complex and morally grey character, he's not entirely bad but he isn't entirely good either (man I love the writing for this VN).
I can't wait for Bryan's update :, thanks for the nice Vn btw. And, will there any Kane's route? He seems kind of adorable, but i won't ditch Bry lol.
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Looking at Ben's past dream, i think Bry is just tired of losing people in his childhood. He seems like a discreet sweetheart (if i'm not wrong and the fact that he was sweet to his mum and sister also he actually care at the time Ben was sick even though he just walked him to the dorm buildings then get mad when Ben was being mad at him for him and everyone who keep asking about his condition + ask to walk him to the infirmary(and that's when i realize he is actually sweet even tho not shown a lot)) that makes me wanna keep going on his route(that's adorable if my assumption ain't a mistake) :, i bet Kane isn't gonna have route?(i would try maybe if there'll be his) instead, He is availabe as someone who's having crush on Ben to trigger Bry's Jealousy?(when Ben was staring on Kane and so does Kane but Bry seemed to not like the fact that Ben was staring on the wolf then immidieatly breaks Ben's stare. the second is when Kane "lost" the game not on "purpose" and Bry's having his eyebrow up, like Kane did it on "purpose" then waiting for Kane's reply. well... it's also obvious for Bry perhaps, when Kane congrats Ben who's just having his "luck" to be the winner but Kane didn't congrats him. Then, the time BB walk to Kane and his friends to join them, Kane's reaction to Bry vs Ben arrival was totally different. Bry is smart? well... i obv knew it if i were him + the fact that Bry knew that Kane like felines. Then, after the game they went on Kane's room but Bry is across 'em both who sit sooo "not too close" (it's not related, except on some jello dude's perception) then excuse himself to the bathroom(prolly eavesdropping(i hope he saw Kane having his hand on Ben's-) and when he bck from the bathroom only to sit and 'acti-' i mean, 'playing' with his phone infront of them, prolly waiting for Kane to have his hand on Ben's thigh. and i just remember abt an event when Bry change his cloth for once to be black then using a nice cologne when he visited his dorm is also a hint that he secretly has feelings for ben since days before it didn't happen (i bet that bald croc ain't having those from Bry, more after he ditch him. and another assumption of Bry closing another friends with "benefit" to only Ben when Ben said that Bry n him gonna "do it" routine(like Bry isn't gonna be taken by others) after classes and weekends).
hmmm... if Bry's as much as what i describe he is above and will be my easy prey fot tease(i hope there'll be more option to tease him if he is actually a discreet sweetheart(just need to explain it seems like if i was right, ppl in the comments seems like gonna ditch Bry as soon as Kane is avaiable bcs they don't realize how sweet he is) who actually loves Ben and being a jello sourbear)or else, if he is just some cool friend with "benefit", I and Ben will ditch him for Kane ASAP <3 (if there will be any Kane's route). anyway, sad fact if my asssumptions was right. Turning someone to just live with the flow n a total slut bcs he missed his childhood n friends
Such A nice Novel with nice Characters developments :, my thanks for the Developer, the writers, the illustrator and all of the team members :, And I'm looking forward for Santa Lucia to be finished.
anyway, any Instagram? kinda wanna submit fansart UwU like, as a support from me(my art ain't bad ya know (@jello_ely) :/ n i wanna make some BB fansart if the novel is finished, maybe Bry only for next week) since i just turn 18 last december n not having any credit card to support this nice novel. and again, xixi thanks for the novel you guys :, we r looking forward for Santa Lucia to be finished.
I am on the same page, Bryan is either too scared to build anything that will last because he fears it will be ripped away from him like so many other times before, or is just aromantic guy who searches only for friends with benefits and nothing more.
Either way, he is a very interesting guy, because his route can either be a way to display in a story how a friends with benefits relationship works or how a man realizes that now things won't be swept from under his rug like before and it's safe to try and build something that will last (in this case, his first real romantic relationship).
P.S. While he has great storytelling potential, my favorite is Carlos. Then he is followed by Nate and then him.
Ah yah, i also kinda wanna try Carlos' just play it recently tho. no time for that yet(reminds me of my old past a bit n i kindaaa wanna skip it tbh, it's embarrassing to play) :, but i'll try other route once i finished with one(means that i'll try after Santa Lucia is finished)
for now, i'm just waiting if i can tease him or ditch him :b welp sounds rude, teheheee
The one that makes me think that Bry lead closer to be as what i n u describe him to be except the aromantic are; when i recall on how much of a dissapointed panda he was when Diego ditch him so then Bry outed Diego who tried to pass the fraternity selection by having his way on the members there(coming from a slut? himself that's wierd) so that makes me think when he had a call with his mom about his sister having a bf "he will use her as a sex toy and then ditch her" like he was projecting it on himself(makes me empathethic n curious) since his next statement when Ben asked about how much of overprotective Bry could be and his answer was "well, i'm a slut but i don't want my sister to be" doesn't sound like it came from Bry or someone who like to say "live it short, live with the flow"(mostly, people teach what they think is right. so i expect an aromantic to atleast not being mad because he suppossed to not understand how romantic feelings like to even being mad at any or others') .
if you get my point is that, after he lost connections e.g friends... there's posibility that he had a boyfriend too and somehow reminds me of Eric. the event when Ben saw Eric's looking at him from Bry's eyes. and then if the event was sort correctly in my mind, Ben confess that he still feels his ex from Bry and being sad about it. but Bry was also like relating his feelings on Ben's seems like he understand how it feels. then the event when Bry is picking Ben to the UC by wearing new cologne and different outfit seems sus like he is trying to impress Ben giving me aura of "i remind u of ur ex? hmm forget him, now u get this good ol panda" and i also forgot to mention about his footbal match and said that he will score every goal for Ben is sort of sus for "cool friends with benefit" to say, like... does Bry say that to his every "friends with benefit"(Diego?) bcs that seems off. If Ben is his only "friends with benefits" who get his special treatments... hmm... also if my assumptions of Bry also have an ex or more, idk and it seems he was like "Ben seems like he get ditched just much as i did. he feels sad about it and even think i'm his second... maybe i should try?" and well... days to days he seems chiller and more open up? that's what i feel when playing his route. and again, if he is just aromantic, he shouldn't be giving me aura of a traumatized dude.
idk much about Carlos' but i still wanna finish Bry's as 1st :b then Russel's or Kane(if there's any) then Carlos. those are assumptions i have to make me thing Bry is my fav
i honestly happy for the author to write the story as intended but it's hard to not assumming T-T but i wish atleast if i was wrong, Russel's or Kane's are avaiable or if i was right, i want chance to tease n make Bry as jealous as he could :) and ugh, about Nate... he is a nice dude but, idk why... :,
I would say that the greatest sin that Bryan has commited, is being "close" with Diego.
Seriously, f*** Diego so much. I have a feeling that Diego will cause some problems when Bryan and Ben are starting to grow much closer to each other. He is the only character that I truly wish to be murdered by the serial killer.
As of typing, no, not even in the new update (currently Patreon exclusive). His route moves the slowest.
If I were you, I'd expect from Carlos to have a NSFW scene extremely close to the end, kinda like Juuichi's route in Morenatsu (assuming you played the VN and know the events in his route).
Actually, Chris has already revealed that Russel is falsely accused of rape during the marathon. Chris also revealed that is his fault that Russel has been accused by the mentors and that he isn't brave enough to confront them.
As to Russel being bisexual, IDK, he's writing doesn't give us any hints, but from what I heard from the Patreo targets, he will have a route eventually. So, yeah, maybe later we will see his bisexuality in action.
I know it won't be for quite some time, but I'm actually really looking forward to the Nate content
At first I shyed away from the character, he wasn't my type and honestly he reminded me of myself, which gave me second hand embarrassment. But after picking Nate for every option I could from the start to current version, I really fell in love with the character.
If anyone skipped out on Nate like I did, I urge you to give him another try
He is my second favorite character! He is open, he is sincere, he is kind and he gives that feeling of living in his world from time to time. I love him because I can relate to him in a lot of ways. But even with all these lovely qualities, what bugs me about him is that the writers put his route content last.
Which means that the character who has the potential to confess romantic love the fastest will have his confession just as late as Carlos and depending on what direction they take his writing, Bryan because of this. So either way, were gonna have to play the waiting game a lot just to get a confession out of anybody.
I know it's Bryan's route but I'd actually love to see having an option to date Kane because there were obvious hints of him... you know... plus I really like him a lot even though his sprite is not yet finished I just have a thing for those kinds of people.
Okay, so, I re-DLed this after a year or so, and GOSH do I love it !! Like, the hallucinations, the paranormal stuff, the killer... that's already enough to keep me going, but the characters and all ? Ooh boy. Usually, I don't enjoy much vns with that little choices, but here it didn't bother me for a bit, the rhythm was so good I was just immersed in it. Although, I admit sometimes I just wanted to combo-slap Ben (particularly after the Russell episode, dammit) Anyway, just finished Bryan's path for now (and boy is Kane cute, serious competition for our panda), and I'm gonna stop writing nonsense and explore the other routes :) Love ! You rock !
I love everything about Santa Lucia. I live vicariously through Ben in more ways than one, except the "being chased by a hallucinated (or is he) psychopath in a red cloak" sense. I promise to write a better review in the future, as I am not rather composed enough to write one now. Although I did plan to share this screenshot of Russell's playlist that somehow played on my phone yesterday, with me having no memory of listening to it.
"Are you finally answering my call, Russell? Please do instead of possessing my phone to brag about your playlist lol." :((
Anyway, keep up the good work Authors and the rest of the team! I'm looking forward to more of the exciting adventures of college life (minus being targeted by a red-cloaked maniac lol). 💖
Hey! It's based on a private university Dzahn attended while in California. A majority of the backgrounds are actually pictures we took together of said university (mixed with a couple of other universities from around Cali).
I need to comend you about tackling the issue about false accusations, and showing how in these matters, people jump to conclusions before trying to analyse the facts
It takes courage to do That, specially considering the usual line of though of the target audience of your novel. I respect you for keeping firm on exposing this problem and not surrendering to the criticism
Kudos for you.
Too bad you had to spill the beans though (Becouse people are stupid) It would be a great Experience to have you try to come up With your own conclusions. and a good "hit to the face" to those who judged poorly.
(I Actually would have enjoyed the suspense, although I was one who called it was false, There was a hint of doubt that made me thirsty for the answer)
I can't express how much I love Carlos. Especially after this build, he's easily one of my favorite VN characters of all time alongside Kudzu from Echo and Diego from Sileo. Excellent work and I can't wait to see where you take Carlos's route.
If only I could've given this game a 20 stars instead of 5... The developer deserves that much at least.
However, I do hope that Bryan and Ben settle into a more monogamous relationship down the line. It doesn't matter if it takes time, I just want a healthy relationship between Ben and Bryan.
Kane most definetly has a crush on Ben and I am all here for it... Though is it bad I want there to be a path split off where you have the option to hang out with Kane more
I'm on Sep 5th, and I would like to meet this Kane character. What day does he first appear in ?
Edit : Met Kane. Loved Kane. Wouldn't mind if Kane wished to destroy my [REDACTED] all night while [REDACTED] my [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] about how much he is into me :)
We do make all of our own soundtrack, with a big part of the tracks for Santa Lucia being composed by Dzahn, and the rest by our fellow StormSinger member, Hop-Skip & The Chewtoys.
Finished my first playthrough and it's such an interesting game with a nice story. I feel really bad about how things worked out with Russel. He's one of my favourite characters and not having control over how things go with him really sucks (I know there are a couple of options at different points). Especially after we find out he was falsely accused. I just don't know if there is a way back from that and it makes me sad. I'm excited to see where you guys go with the game though!
Yo... i hate how you had us handle Zach after he dropped the guitar, and got upset.... That was a horrible way to go about with that situation. And you won't allow us to actually go back in and apologize????
Dude, that's horrible, and I really want to date him.
You should make that an option... He's too cute not to date him
i'm really enjoying vn so far, i haven't finished but the little i played i have the impression that ben has post traumatic stress disorder this may explain the nightmares and hallucinations.
What the heck was up in the dream? I couldn't tell if it was really Chris or not. 🤔🤔🤔 I'm guessing we'll get some sort of idea next update, regardless I enjoyed the update.😃😃😃
Personal theory here: I thinks it's an overlap of Ben's nightmares + memories and Russel's memories.
Basically I think Ben's nightmares let him see other people's memories but he replaces some characters within those dreams with people he knows or himself.
if you're playing on mobile you can prevent this by finding the game files and copying the saves file, deleting the app, downloading the update and then pasting the saves into the games files
likely would work the same if you somehow got this issue on pc
just found this game and skimmed through the comments to check if previous players left great reviews on it but damn it's like yall are on a completely different universe, i just came over thinking russell looks kinda cute
Small thing I noticed: in Carlos' route right after the camping on Sept. 9 he tells us that we woke up and headed straight to the overlook to confront Russell, but later on, during Sept. 16 when we ask Zach: "Remember when you told me he(Russell) was out on the overlook at Cambrion Valley?". Am I reading into the lines to much or was it unintentional?
I'll assume you're playing on Android since only Android users seem to have issue with this.
In order for Android to properly register the installation of the new build, you first have to completely uninstall the previous build. This is a quirk of the Ren'py engine that I have no control over, unfortunately.
There's also a good chance you'll lose your save data doing this. I recommend backing them up beforehand. They can be found on most Android devices in the "Data" folder of its storage section.
I am trying to decode the message the Red Hooded person says at the very beginning. So far I've been able to crack one, which says: "Death comes for all". Anyone else cracked the rest??
Hey don't know if you're still doing this, but this is what I've got so far, I'm not entirely sure they're correct of course, but figured might as well post them:
"Eth nohewo lliw veren niw trenursot ghift ganai." - First Dream The one who will never win returns to fight again.
Obviously: "Thaed semco rof lla." - First Dream Death comes for all.
"Nekle erefob emand pyar rof latisavno." - First Dream Kneel before me and pray for salvation
OK so, spoilers(?) ahead or at least theory time for me
as Ive replayed the game for Carlos, among the other routes, and so an so (although i noticed the oddity my first time around and as I'm playing it right now, I'm at the lunch scene with shay) the way the flow of info Ive been been getting, its hinting (at least for me) that Chris is the rapist, i have some points to this,first his attitude, it seems forced to me, then there's the moment Russel first appears in the lab, and Chris's persona changes, which weirded me out, then we get to the whole Russel dilemma, Russel doesn't seem to be trying to win us over, its more like hes just being kind, we even see this when he takes off his beanie to put Zach at ease, even though he makes multiple lewd suggestions, he does it in a joking way, hes never really serious about it times, and then we get to the part were shay is talking to Ben about how "Chris talks about him a lot." which gave me some red flags. and in general, i've never really liked Chris due to his personality (i.e it feeling forced) and i trust Russel more due to him being the first person we meet outside of Santa Lucia
I think that you're onto something. Spoilers and theory:
Something about Chris just seems off. Especially with how Russel refers to him as a kind of "back stabber/traitor" and how he wants to "protect Ben from Chris". Something felt off about the whole forrest scene too. I think that either you are right about Chris or that he is the murderer because so far he has been at the places where the murders (that we have been there for/know more about) have taken place (the restaurant and the place with the forrest for the trip (I even think that it was mentioned that Chris left the group at some point during the dinner while Ben was sleeping, which makes me even more suspicious of him and Ben's "hallucinations").
but then we have the scene in the mess hall with Blake, Sam, an Chris. Chris in general seems to know (or at least is implying) that Russel wasn't the rapist, but before hand he says "Hes trying to take one of my men-tees away", Because Russel never tries to imply it what-so-ever the first time he appears in the lab, which gives the idea that Chris isn't as air-headed as we think he is.
(off topic)
then we have Zach, whose somehow in-twined in all of this, due to his odd connection with Russel, he seems to know Russel more then we think he does, then there's his connection to the "red hood" as well, and his appearance in the most recent of Ben's dreams, Zach is connected to Russel somehow, maybe he knew Russel when he was younger or maybe its some weird dream stuff that Zach might have, since he did appear in ben's dream near the end of the update. all in all, something is up with Zach and his connection to Russel, and its probably why he thinks Russel isn't guilty.
I definately think that you're right again. Chris is definately not as air-headed as we think he is. I forgot about the fact (and didn't fully realize at the time) that he picked up on what Russel was doing without it ever being hinted at/mentioned. I also feel like Zach might have known Russel when they were younger (like you said). The car scene when they "first" meet with Zach already knowing/recognizing Russel's name and hugging Russel and acting comfortable with him, which is completely out of character for Zach, helps point to/support the theory that they have some kind of history that we don't know about. This would explain why Zach thinks Russel is innocent (like you said). Zach's connection to the "red hood" is interesing. I think that Zach might have some knid of personal connection to them in some way based off of how invested he is in them and how much he knows about them and their murders. Maybe he could have possibly known or been related to one or more of the "red hood's" victims. Or he might even know/be related to the "red hood", but that one is a bit of a stretch.
All in all, theorizing about all of this just makes me even more excited for the next public update. Hopefully it will help answer/give more evidence that can point us to more clear answers for our questions/theories and not just leave us with more questions (even though that wouldn't be too bad if it did, just more to theorize about).
there's also one more very odd thing that relates to the red hood and his "mark"? well. not exactly, there's almost no follow-up of explanation for the mark in general (i.e the scene where the first murder, that we really get details on the red hood,or well as much as we could since it was just a couple lines of text) i couldn't figure out what it was, i tried replacing the numbers with letters and i even put it through a decoder, but nothing came of it. but there is something that we can semi confirm about them, the way they murder seems oddly....religious, mainly with how they spoke, and the first time we meet the red hood (or maybe it was a different dream), its in a dream where they first talk in English but then switch over to a different one in a quick fashion, whoever he is, it wasn't Latin, for one thing,........now that i look at this, for some reason Carlos semi fits the bill, but he doesn't have that heavy religious vibe, plus his build is different then the red hood
That's a really good point. They do all seem kind of religous in a way. I don't really have any ideas for the mark, but I don't think that the red hood is Carlos, but I could be wrong, escpecially after that one "hallucination" when Carlos found Ben after he first got the medicine (I know it was said that it was a hallucination, but I feel like we can't be too sure if it was a hallucination or the real thing). This could certainly support Carlos being the red hood if it wasn't just a hallucination. I also feel like the whole blood in jars thing will somehow come into play. Like we might end up seeing someone with a suspicious amount of jars hidden somewhere or see them buying/carrying jars.
Semi off topic
Another thing that doesn't sit right with me is Dr. Hernandez's murder. I don't know what it is but I feel like she isn't really dead and could also be the red hood. I feel like she could be alive because of ben seeing her figure at the top of W.H. after her death. That and the fact that I think in the first nightmare that we see on the plane, the red hood seems to possibly have a beak ike Dr. Hernandez, not sure if that is a clue or just a random detail.
Then there's the whole thing after the Russel situation. I have no idea of what to make of it unless it was supposed to be a metaphor for something. Possibly Ben or Chris pushing Russel off of a metaphorical cliff representing the sudden ending of their frienship.
You guys have some really awesome theories, with some good evidence too. I'd probably believe it if there wasn't one thing throwing me off - Chris' route goal. I'm questioning whether the devs would even consider allowing us to enter a romantic route with a potential rapist. It could be some shock plot twist like other vns having surprise psychotic boyfriends, but I'm very hesitant to say they will.
my friend at one point was talking about this infinite life theory ( something like that) where when you die you get warped to a different you from a another universe that was parallel to your original one.
after the park ben has a scar on his back that wasn't there before that would be a fatly wound, so what if when he died in one universe he hoped to a new one and his dreams are true life but from the universe he left
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(Spoilers for Carlos's route)
I analyzed Carlos way too much because I love him lmao
I'm starting to think Carlos has a HUGE inferiority complex that he always hides behind a mask, that mask being his perpetual need to be a perfectionist. This is due to holding himself in such a high standard that he even thrusts this on others in order to feel superior by being the better example. It's his way of seeking validation, if he thinks of himself as better than other people then all his problems would just go away. That's why he's very overly critical towards the others (mostly Ben and Bryan), assumes the worst of people, highly competitive or the perpetual need to prove himself, mood swings, and even making others feel insecure of their abilities. So what happens when somebody calls him out for his BS or when he fails to meet his high standards? Well, that's when you get too see the real Carlos. After being called out by his brother about how his behavior caused pain in others, it's that realization that stabbed Carlos extremely hard (harder than his facial scar lmao) that he felt like he's nothing but a failure, being reminded all over again about how much of a burden he truly feels deep inside. Carlos already hates himself for being a gay man as he seems to repress it hard because he believes he brought shame to his family because of that, now add another cut through his skin about how he was the one who feels responsible for his brother's downfall. It's his choices and actions that he feels extremely guilty of, not to mention the anxiety he got from it, that he goes as far as to put people beneath him just to feel better about himself and once he realizes what a huge mistake he's been doing, it felt like everything had been crushed to pieces, he felt like he had no one due to pushing people away, he felt like no one truly cared for him, he felt alone, depressed and that he got nothing else to live for. Carlos would've broke down... if it wasn't for Ben being there for him (could you imagine if Carlos went alone to visit his brother, what would've happened to him instead..?). I find it ironic that Carlos believes that the actions of other people is what he sees as genuine yet Carlos is the least genuine person between the main love interests just solely based on his actions. If he's finally able to overcome his inferiority complex instead of hiding it by all that superiority then he could be so much happier. He's a deeply flawed yet complex and morally grey character, he's not entirely bad but he isn't entirely good either (man I love the writing for this VN).
Yayyyyy thank you... 💕💕💕😘😘
Yey, i'm wait for Nate route-update :*
I can't wait for Bryan's update :, thanks for the nice Vn btw. And, will there any Kane's route? He seems kind of adorable, but i won't ditch Bry lol.
**Spoiler and Opinions**
Looking at Ben's past dream, i think Bry is just tired of losing people in his childhood. He seems like a discreet sweetheart (if i'm not wrong and the fact that he was sweet to his mum and sister also he actually care at the time Ben was sick even though he just walked him to the dorm buildings then get mad when Ben was being mad at him for him and everyone who keep asking about his condition + ask to walk him to the infirmary(and that's when i realize he is actually sweet even tho not shown a lot)) that makes me wanna keep going on his route(that's adorable if my assumption ain't a mistake) :, i bet Kane isn't gonna have route?(i would try maybe if there'll be his) instead, He is availabe as someone who's having crush on Ben to trigger Bry's Jealousy?(when Ben was staring on Kane and so does Kane but Bry seemed to not like the fact that Ben was staring on the wolf then immidieatly breaks Ben's stare. the second is when Kane "lost" the game not on "purpose" and Bry's having his eyebrow up, like Kane did it on "purpose" then waiting for Kane's reply. well... it's also obvious for Bry perhaps, when Kane congrats Ben who's just having his "luck" to be the winner but Kane didn't congrats him. Then, the time BB walk to Kane and his friends to join them, Kane's reaction to Bry vs Ben arrival was totally different. Bry is smart? well... i obv knew it if i were him + the fact that Bry knew that Kane like felines. Then, after the game they went on Kane's room but Bry is across 'em both who sit sooo "not too close" (it's not related, except on some jello dude's perception) then excuse himself to the bathroom(prolly eavesdropping(i hope he saw Kane having his hand on Ben's-) and when he bck from the bathroom only to sit and 'acti-' i mean, 'playing' with his phone infront of them, prolly waiting for Kane to have his hand on Ben's thigh. and i just remember abt an event when Bry change his cloth for once to be black then using a nice cologne when he visited his dorm is also a hint that he secretly has feelings for ben since days before it didn't happen (i bet that bald croc ain't having those from Bry, more after he ditch him. and another assumption of Bry closing another friends with "benefit" to only Ben when Ben said that Bry n him gonna "do it" routine(like Bry isn't gonna be taken by others) after classes and weekends).
hmmm... if Bry's as much as what i describe he is above and will be my easy prey fot tease(i hope there'll be more option to tease him if he is actually a discreet sweetheart(just need to explain it seems like if i was right, ppl in the comments seems like gonna ditch Bry as soon as Kane is avaiable bcs they don't realize how sweet he is) who actually loves Ben and being a jello sourbear)or else, if he is just some cool friend with "benefit", I and Ben will ditch him for Kane ASAP <3 (if there will be any Kane's route). anyway, sad fact if my asssumptions was right. Turning someone to just live with the flow n a total slut bcs he missed his childhood n friends
Such A nice Novel with nice Characters developments :, my thanks for the Developer, the writers, the illustrator and all of the team members :, And I'm looking forward for Santa Lucia to be finished.
anyway, any Instagram? kinda wanna submit fansart UwU like, as a support from me(my art ain't bad ya know (@jello_ely) :/ n i wanna make some BB fansart if the novel is finished, maybe Bry only for next week) since i just turn 18 last december n not having any credit card to support this nice novel. and again, xixi thanks for the novel you guys :, we r looking forward for Santa Lucia to be finished.
I am on the same page, Bryan is either too scared to build anything that will last because he fears it will be ripped away from him like so many other times before, or is just aromantic guy who searches only for friends with benefits and nothing more.
Either way, he is a very interesting guy, because his route can either be a way to display in a story how a friends with benefits relationship works or how a man realizes that now things won't be swept from under his rug like before and it's safe to try and build something that will last (in this case, his first real romantic relationship).
P.S. While he has great storytelling potential, my favorite is Carlos. Then he is followed by Nate and then him.
Ah yah, i also kinda wanna try Carlos' just play it recently tho. no time for that yet(reminds me of my old past a bit n i kindaaa wanna skip it tbh, it's embarrassing to play) :, but i'll try other route once i finished with one(means that i'll try after Santa Lucia is finished)
for now, i'm just waiting if i can tease him or ditch him :b welp sounds rude, teheheee
The one that makes me think that Bry lead closer to be as what i n u describe him to be except the aromantic are; when i recall on how much of a dissapointed panda he was when Diego ditch him so then Bry outed Diego who tried to pass the fraternity selection by having his way on the members there(coming from a slut? himself that's wierd) so that makes me think when he had a call with his mom about his sister having a bf "he will use her as a sex toy and then ditch her" like he was projecting it on himself(makes me empathethic n curious) since his next statement when Ben asked about how much of overprotective Bry could be and his answer was "well, i'm a slut but i don't want my sister to be" doesn't sound like it came from Bry or someone who like to say "live it short, live with the flow"(mostly, people teach what they think is right. so i expect an aromantic to atleast not being mad because he suppossed to not understand how romantic feelings like to even being mad at any or others') .
if you get my point is that, after he lost connections e.g friends... there's posibility that he had a boyfriend too and somehow reminds me of Eric. the event when Ben saw Eric's looking at him from Bry's eyes. and then if the event was sort correctly in my mind, Ben confess that he still feels his ex from Bry and being sad about it. but Bry was also like relating his feelings on Ben's seems like he understand how it feels. then the event when Bry is picking Ben to the UC by wearing new cologne and different outfit seems sus like he is trying to impress Ben giving me aura of "i remind u of ur ex? hmm forget him, now u get this good ol panda" and i also forgot to mention about his footbal match and said that he will score every goal for Ben is sort of sus for "cool friends with benefit" to say, like... does Bry say that to his every "friends with benefit"(Diego?) bcs that seems off. If Ben is his only "friends with benefits" who get his special treatments... hmm... also if my assumptions of Bry also have an ex or more, idk and it seems he was like "Ben seems like he get ditched just much as i did. he feels sad about it and even think i'm his second... maybe i should try?" and well... days to days he seems chiller and more open up? that's what i feel when playing his route. and again, if he is just aromantic, he shouldn't be giving me aura of a traumatized dude.
idk much about Carlos' but i still wanna finish Bry's as 1st :b then Russel's or Kane(if there's any) then Carlos. those are assumptions i have to make me thing Bry is my fav
i honestly happy for the author to write the story as intended but it's hard to not assumming T-T but i wish atleast if i was wrong, Russel's or Kane's are avaiable or if i was right, i want chance to tease n make Bry as jealous as he could :) and ugh, about Nate... he is a nice dude but, idk why... :,
I would say that the greatest sin that Bryan has commited, is being "close" with Diego.
Seriously, f*** Diego so much. I have a feeling that Diego will cause some problems when Bryan and Ben are starting to grow much closer to each other. He is the only character that I truly wish to be murdered by the serial killer.
Are there any specifics into the schedule like x character gets updates for the whole year or does it alternate between characters?
They switch characters at the end of the specific Act/Chapter for that character
hola y disculpa mi idioma quería infórmate de esto.
esta persona esta re subiendo tu juego y el de otros y cobrando por ellos.
disculpa si eso fue incomodo
Muchas gracias por la reporta!
Does carlos route have any nsfw stuff on it?
As of typing, no, not even in the new update (currently Patreon exclusive). His route moves the slowest.
If I were you, I'd expect from Carlos to have a NSFW scene extremely close to the end, kinda like Juuichi's route in Morenatsu (assuming you played the VN and know the events in his route).
Alright thank you.
Actually, Chris has already revealed that Russel is falsely accused of rape during the marathon. Chris also revealed that is his fault that Russel has been accused by the mentors and that he isn't brave enough to confront them.
As to Russel being bisexual, IDK, he's writing doesn't give us any hints, but from what I heard from the Patreo targets, he will have a route eventually. So, yeah, maybe later we will see his bisexuality in action.
I know it won't be for quite some time, but I'm actually really looking forward to the Nate content
At first I shyed away from the character, he wasn't my type and honestly he reminded me of myself, which gave me second hand embarrassment. But after picking Nate for every option I could from the start to current version, I really fell in love with the character.
If anyone skipped out on Nate like I did, I urge you to give him another try
He is my second favorite character! He is open, he is sincere, he is kind and he gives that feeling of living in his world from time to time. I love him because I can relate to him in a lot of ways. But even with all these lovely qualities, what bugs me about him is that the writers put his route content last.
Which means that the character who has the potential to confess romantic love the fastest will have his confession just as late as Carlos and depending on what direction they take his writing, Bryan because of this. So either way, were gonna have to play the waiting game a lot just to get a confession out of anybody.
I hope everyone at StormSingerStudios is having a great month. 🙂🙂
SLIGHT SPOILERS I think?
I know it's Bryan's route but I'd actually love to see having an option to date Kane because there were obvious hints of him... you know... plus I really like him a lot even though his sprite is not yet finished I just have a thing for those kinds of people.
Agreed, I'd ditch Bryan in a heartbeat if it meant I could date Kane lol. He's adorable. I'm worried he might get killed off or something, though.
If Kane dies, I will cry.
Okay, so, I re-DLed this after a year or so, and GOSH do I love it !!
Like, the hallucinations, the paranormal stuff, the killer... that's already enough to keep me going, but the characters and all ? Ooh boy. Usually, I don't enjoy much vns with that little choices, but here it didn't bother me for a bit, the rhythm was so good I was just immersed in it.
Although, I admit sometimes I just wanted to combo-slap Ben (particularly after the Russell episode, dammit)
Anyway, just finished Bryan's path for now (and boy is Kane cute, serious competition for our panda), and I'm gonna stop writing nonsense and explore the other routes :)
Love ! You rock !
- SOME SPOILERS, I THINK? -
I love everything about Santa Lucia. I live vicariously through Ben in more ways than one, except the "being chased by a hallucinated (or is he) psychopath in a red cloak" sense. I promise to write a better review in the future, as I am not rather composed enough to write one now. Although I did plan to share this screenshot of Russell's playlist that somehow played on my phone yesterday, with me having no memory of listening to it.
"Are you finally answering my call, Russell? Please do instead of possessing my phone to brag about your playlist lol." :((
Anyway, keep up the good work Authors and the rest of the team! I'm looking forward to more of the exciting adventures of college life (minus being targeted by a red-cloaked maniac lol). 💖
Is USL based off any college in particular? I keep drawing parallels between colleges IRL and in this VN.
Hey! It's based on a private university Dzahn attended while in California. A majority of the backgrounds are actually pictures we took together of said university (mixed with a couple of other universities from around Cali).
-Dev
I need to comend you about tackling the issue about false accusations, and showing how in these matters, people jump to conclusions before trying to analyse the facts
It takes courage to do That, specially considering the usual line of though of the target audience of your novel. I respect you for keeping firm on exposing this problem and not surrendering to the criticism
Kudos for you.
Too bad you had to spill the beans though (Becouse people are stupid) It would be a great Experience to have you try to come up With your own conclusions. and a good "hit to the face" to those who judged poorly.
(I Actually would have enjoyed the suspense, although I was one who called it was false, There was a hint of doubt that made me thirsty for the answer)
I can't express how much I love Carlos. Especially after this build, he's easily one of my favorite VN characters of all time alongside Kudzu from Echo and Diego from Sileo. Excellent work and I can't wait to see where you take Carlos's route.
Best husband~
Will there be an eventual route for Zach in the future? I absolutely adore him and I definitely wanna see more :3
I think so? There's a goal on Patreon for a Zach route and according to some old comments the devs have confirmed that he'll get a route eventually.
If only I could've given this game a 20 stars instead of 5... The developer deserves that much at least.
However, I do hope that Bryan and Ben settle into a more monogamous relationship down the line. It doesn't matter if it takes time, I just want a healthy relationship between Ben and Bryan.
I'm missing Russell a little more dialogue in the story, I really like the character and I think he should expose his side of the story to Ben.
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Kane most definetly has a crush on Ben and I am all here for it... Though is it bad I want there to be a path split off where you have the option to hang out with Kane more
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I'm on Sep 5th, and I would like to meet this Kane character. What day does he first appear in ?
Edit : Met Kane. Loved Kane. Wouldn't mind if Kane wished to destroy my [REDACTED] all night while [REDACTED] my [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] about how much he is into me :)
That was litteraly my first thought after reading the new build. He's just so cute/(very hot)!
When is the update coming out?
I went through Santa Lucia again and I absolutely love the music. I forgot if it's mentioned, but does Stormsinger Studios make their own soundtrack?
We do make all of our own soundtrack, with a big part of the tracks for Santa Lucia being composed by Dzahn, and the rest by our fellow StormSinger member, Hop-Skip & The Chewtoys.
I'm sure you hear it a lot but, fantastic music!!! 😃😃😃😃
Thank you very much!
Finished my first playthrough and it's such an interesting game with a nice story. I feel really bad about how things worked out with Russel. He's one of my favourite characters and not having control over how things go with him really sucks (I know there are a couple of options at different points). Especially after we find out he was falsely accused. I just don't know if there is a way back from that and it makes me sad. I'm excited to see where you guys go with the game though!
Thanks!
Are things would ever work out between Ben and Russel?
Happy New Year everyone!!!
Have a Happy New Years everyone!! 😃😃😃
Yo... i hate how you had us handle Zach after he dropped the guitar, and got upset.... That was a horrible way to go about with that situation. And you won't allow us to actually go back in and apologize????
Dude, that's horrible, and I really want to date him.
You should make that an option... He's too cute not to date him
I think the purpose of that was to feel what Ben was feeling? I'm pretty sure there is a purpose for it regardless. 🙂🙂
Does the way you explain your relationship with Eric to Karina affect anything in your relationship with the others?
Happy Holidays everyone!! 😃😃😃😃😃
Am I the only one sad that you can't date Sam he so cute...
i'm really enjoying vn so far, i haven't finished but the little i played i have the impression that ben has post traumatic stress disorder this may explain the nightmares and hallucinations.
Spoilers:
What the heck was up in the dream? I couldn't tell if it was really Chris or not. 🤔🤔🤔 I'm guessing we'll get some sort of idea next update, regardless I enjoyed the update.😃😃😃
Personal theory here: I thinks it's an overlap of Ben's nightmares + memories and Russel's memories.
Basically I think Ben's nightmares let him see other people's memories but he replaces some characters within those dreams with people he knows or himself.
omg its bryan we won
I think Ren'Py is having issues, I had to uninstall the game and then reinstall it. It installed but I lost ALL my saves. 😭😭😭😭
if you're playing on mobile you can prevent this by finding the game files and copying the saves file, deleting the app, downloading the update and then pasting the saves into the games files
likely would work the same if you somehow got this issue on pc
It's okay, I'll just skip to the parts I left off. 🙂🙂🙂
I hope everyone at Stormsinger Studios is having a good NaNoWriMo. 😃😃😃
just found this game and skimmed through the comments to check if previous players left great reviews on it but damn it's like yall are on a completely different universe, i just came over thinking russell looks kinda cute
Yeah the game is in an interesting spot right now
Small thing I noticed: in Carlos' route right after the camping on Sept. 9 he tells us that we woke up and headed straight to the overlook to confront Russell, but later on, during Sept. 16 when we ask Zach: "Remember when you told me he(Russell) was out on the overlook at Cambrion Valley?". Am I reading into the lines to much or was it unintentional?
The inconsistency is intentional.
am i The Only One Having Issues With Dowloading The New Build?
I'll assume you're playing on Android since only Android users seem to have issue with this.
In order for Android to properly register the installation of the new build, you first have to completely uninstall the previous build. This is a quirk of the Ren'py engine that I have no control over, unfortunately.
There's also a good chance you'll lose your save data doing this. I recommend backing them up beforehand. They can be found on most Android devices in the "Data" folder of its storage section.
Ty for replying. I did however found a way to download it . So no bigies
I am trying to decode the message the Red Hooded person says at the very beginning. So far I've been able to crack one, which says: "Death comes for all". Anyone else cracked the rest??
I dont think anyone has yet, but its good to know at least one was solved, its only a matter of time till we crack the next couple
Hey don't know if you're still doing this, but this is what I've got so far, I'm not entirely sure they're correct of course, but figured might as well post them:
"Eth nohewo lliw veren niw trenursot ghift ganai." - First Dream
The one who will never win returns to fight again.
Obviously:
"Thaed semco rof lla." - First Dream
Death comes for all.
"Nekle erefob emand pyar rof latisavno." - First Dream
Kneel before me and pray for salvation
"Meco otem." - Dream in class.
Come to me.
Edit: I think I solved the first one.
Dang I feel stupid now. 😅😅😅😅
i swear it doesnt even feel like 2 years went by it feels like 1..
OK so, spoilers(?) ahead or at least theory time for me
as Ive replayed the game for Carlos, among the other routes, and so an so (although i noticed the oddity my first time around and as I'm playing it right now, I'm at the lunch scene with shay) the way the flow of info Ive been been getting, its hinting (at least for me) that Chris is the rapist, i have some points to this,first his attitude, it seems forced to me, then there's the moment Russel first appears in the lab, and Chris's persona changes, which weirded me out, then we get to the whole Russel dilemma, Russel doesn't seem to be trying to win us over, its more like hes just being kind, we even see this when he takes off his beanie to put Zach at ease, even though he makes multiple lewd suggestions, he does it in a joking way, hes never really serious about it times, and then we get to the part were shay is talking to Ben about how "Chris talks about him a lot." which gave me some red flags. and in general, i've never really liked Chris due to his personality (i.e it feeling forced) and i trust Russel more due to him being the first person we meet outside of Santa Lucia
sorry for how long this is
I think that you're onto something. Spoilers and theory:
Something about Chris just seems off. Especially with how Russel refers to him as a kind of "back stabber/traitor" and how he wants to "protect Ben from Chris". Something felt off about the whole forrest scene too. I think that either you are right about Chris or that he is the murderer because so far he has been at the places where the murders (that we have been there for/know more about) have taken place (the restaurant and the place with the forrest for the trip (I even think that it was mentioned that Chris left the group at some point during the dinner while Ben was sleeping, which makes me even more suspicious of him and Ben's "hallucinations").
More theory/spoilers
but then we have the scene in the mess hall with Blake, Sam, an Chris. Chris in general seems to know (or at least is implying) that Russel wasn't the rapist, but before hand he says "Hes trying to take one of my men-tees away", Because Russel never tries to imply it what-so-ever the first time he appears in the lab, which gives the idea that Chris isn't as air-headed as we think he is.
(off topic)
then we have Zach, whose somehow in-twined in all of this, due to his odd connection with Russel, he seems to know Russel more then we think he does, then there's his connection to the "red hood" as well, and his appearance in the most recent of Ben's dreams, Zach is connected to Russel somehow, maybe he knew Russel when he was younger or maybe its some weird dream stuff that Zach might have, since he did appear in ben's dream near the end of the update. all in all, something is up with Zach and his connection to Russel, and its probably why he thinks Russel isn't guilty.
(but that just my take on it)
Even more theory/spoilers
I definately think that you're right again. Chris is definately not as air-headed as we think he is. I forgot about the fact (and didn't fully realize at the time) that he picked up on what Russel was doing without it ever being hinted at/mentioned. I also feel like Zach might have known Russel when they were younger (like you said). The car scene when they "first" meet with Zach already knowing/recognizing Russel's name and hugging Russel and acting comfortable with him, which is completely out of character for Zach, helps point to/support the theory that they have some kind of history that we don't know about. This would explain why Zach thinks Russel is innocent (like you said). Zach's connection to the "red hood" is interesing. I think that Zach might have some knid of personal connection to them in some way based off of how invested he is in them and how much he knows about them and their murders. Maybe he could have possibly known or been related to one or more of the "red hood's" victims. Or he might even know/be related to the "red hood", but that one is a bit of a stretch.
All in all, theorizing about all of this just makes me even more excited for the next public update. Hopefully it will help answer/give more evidence that can point us to more clear answers for our questions/theories and not just leave us with more questions (even though that wouldn't be too bad if it did, just more to theorize about).
there's also one more very odd thing that relates to the red hood and his "mark"? well. not exactly, there's almost no follow-up of explanation for the mark in general (i.e the scene where the first murder, that we really get details on the red hood,or well as much as we could since it was just a couple lines of text) i couldn't figure out what it was, i tried replacing the numbers with letters and i even put it through a decoder, but nothing came of it. but there is something that we can semi confirm about them, the way they murder seems oddly....religious, mainly with how they spoke, and the first time we meet the red hood (or maybe it was a different dream), its in a dream where they first talk in English but then switch over to a different one in a quick fashion, whoever he is, it wasn't Latin, for one thing,........now that i look at this, for some reason Carlos semi fits the bill, but he doesn't have that heavy religious vibe, plus his build is different then the red hood
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That's a really good point. They do all seem kind of religous in a way. I don't really have any ideas for the mark, but I don't think that the red hood is Carlos, but I could be wrong, escpecially after that one "hallucination" when Carlos found Ben after he first got the medicine (I know it was said that it was a hallucination, but I feel like we can't be too sure if it was a hallucination or the real thing). This could certainly support Carlos being the red hood if it wasn't just a hallucination. I also feel like the whole blood in jars thing will somehow come into play. Like we might end up seeing someone with a suspicious amount of jars hidden somewhere or see them buying/carrying jars.
Semi off topic
Another thing that doesn't sit right with me is Dr. Hernandez's murder. I don't know what it is but I feel like she isn't really dead and could also be the red hood. I feel like she could be alive because of ben seeing her figure at the top of W.H. after her death. That and the fact that I think in the first nightmare that we see on the plane, the red hood seems to possibly have a beak ike Dr. Hernandez, not sure if that is a clue or just a random detail.
Then there's the whole thing after the Russel situation. I have no idea of what to make of it unless it was supposed to be a metaphor for something. Possibly Ben or Chris pushing Russel off of a metaphorical cliff representing the sudden ending of their frienship.
You guys have some really awesome theories, with some good evidence too. I'd probably believe it if there wasn't one thing throwing me off - Chris' route goal. I'm questioning whether the devs would even consider allowing us to enter a romantic route with a potential rapist. It could be some shock plot twist like other vns having surprise psychotic boyfriends, but I'm very hesitant to say they will.
Wait. he has a route? i never even knew that.
Spoiler? Theory?
my friend at one point was talking about this infinite life theory ( something like that) where when you die you get warped to a different you from a another universe that was parallel to your original one.
after the park ben has a scar on his back that wasn't there before that would be a fatly wound, so what if when he died in one universe he hoped to a new one and his dreams are true life but from the universe he left
I hope I explained myself ok