Can I ask why xou guys decided to make all three boys bottoms? (I can only assume Nate is the same, as I am in no way interested in playing his route)
When I first found out that Carlos is a bottom, I was pretty disappointed, but I told myself “at least I can still rely on Bryan for all of my submissive desires”, but lo and behold, another bottom 😥
Is this a personal preference? Because it honestly makes no sense to my why xou wouldn’t leave at least one top (who would be willing to bottom on occasions)
A third of the reason why I read VNs is for sexual content, and when the MC tops, I usually just skip through as it’s not something I enjoy. Please tell me there will be more moments for Ben to bottom? 😟
it would be extremely hilarious and as someone who's played Nate's content it's unironically extremely likely he's the sole character who's an exclusive top
From what I can see Carlos would be the bottom, Bryan's the switch and Nate's the top
I really do suggest trying out Nate's stuff because the entire theme of the game is the masks people put up and his was seemingly so effective it made people not want anything to do with him which I get but his content honestly shines a lot for the theme and might show it the best
Honestly I'm pretty sure Nate's the top because there's a shocking amount going on there. Or maybe switch top lean? (I say because of his existing saucy CG)
Just don't write Nate off quite yet, he wears a mask like everyone else does.
So I did end up giving his route a try, and honestly? I still don’t like him 😅 I mean, sure, he isn’t as insufferable as I had initially thought, but the fact he’s possibly lying about who he is makes me like him even less
I’ll still follow his path, but unless his reasons have meaningful validity, I doubt he’ll become someone I’d like
I guess I don't quite get it because they all are lying about who they are, and that's a big part of the story. I think I get it with Nate being the most obvious in not being (for lack of a better term) genuine.
[Spoilers]
Ben-Holds most of his thoughts in even when it's actually destroying his life.
Karina-Doesn't let anyone really get to know her and lashes out to avoid real intimacy.
Chris-Wraps so much of his identity into 'being a mentor' because he doesn't think anyone likes who he really is.
Brian-Uses the sex obsessed muscle head facade to avoid being hurt by a genuine relationship.
Carlos-Closeted for a little over half his route. Refuses help for a myriad of reasons in a myriad of ways.
Zach-Has probably looped this semester enough times to be totally shut out of his own life.
Russell-Claims he refuses to be someone else's punching bag anymore, but still has a martyr complex he hides behind snark and being flippant.
Nate-Takes on the 'gay stereotype' to reject what he was raised to be.
Wow, xou really nailed all of the characters spot on! 😁
And yeah, I can look past people covering up or trying to hide parts of themselves, but actively lying about who they are is even more of a turn off than flamboyant guys, at least for me.
Just finished the build update and this has to be one of the most emotional part of the vn i have ever read. I was crying at end and i had to take a moment to process everything. But i still enjoyed the build and can't wait for the continue of the next part.
Unfortunately they are not yet done, Bryan route ends on act 3, Carlos route will probably end on act 3 and Nate will be the next one and once his done (ends on act 3) the devs can focus on act 4.
So... this was a lot. I'll try to avoid spoilers but the way this VN did what I never though it would do. This story shifts in the most unimaginable ways and it really left me feeling sad (That's not a bad thing as most of the better VNs do). All I have to say is please keep working on this project as this is a great story, and I can't wait to see how it will be expanded upon.
im not entirely sure but i know theres route for nate carlos and bryan and idk if others have routes beacuse it didnt seems like it (after trying i ended up in a route without anyone and it wasnt cool)
Currently just 3 for Carlos, Bryan, and Nate but more will be added. Next we will get one for Kent, then likely Chris, and after that there isn’t really an official order yet.
It broke my heart when I saw Chris scare Ben off. But then when I saw that expression on Chris' face at the church when he grabbed Ben to stop him from leaving, my first words were "Oh, thank God" (not even thinking about the irony of that statement).
Can someone clearly say whose routes will be available in the game in the future, except for the main three? Chris, as I understand, was canceled, Russell was replaced by Kane, or what?
I haven't read this VN for a long time, and the comments contradict each other...
Idk how much I can reveal, but Dzahn is happy because it gives him a lot of opportunities to make Chris a lot more interesting character. Kane's route had 70% votes in poll, so it's obvious win
I'm just guessing since im not a patron, but im assuming the amswer is no. The love interests we have are the same for both patreon and public, the difference being is that the patron build is ahead in the story
Kane is straight up boyfriend material not pushy, nice, handsome, fit, smart, gamer, and most importantly HIS A WOLF!! PLEASE I NEED MORE KANE!!! HE SO PRECIOUS PROTECT HIM AT ALL COST!!
(Theory spoiler maybe)
According to any murder mystery movies and stuff I feel like Chris the Aussie behind all this... Acting all innocent and such idk why he giving off serial killer vibe... It's just a theory of mine..
I think the protagonist is the serial killer having dual personality and its nightmares are part of blured dream memories he remember of when his other side is controlling his body or his other side trying to get ride of him in his head to take control in those dream fights.
At least some of them.
In worse case the end since that a terror story would be...
He killing the protagonist boyfriend in the end of the story and when he back to his normally personality the protagonist remember what happened suicide to put a end in the murders.
dunno why kind agreed with the statement maybe he is... But.......... If the protagonist actually real serial killer.... Why he didn't take the opportunity to end Zack life or Kane..
During dating part with Kane why he didn't just ya know... End Kane life right there...
Literally anyone around protagonist actually can be killed..... If his a real killer he would take that opportunity to end them one by one.. But... Rather then.... Strangers...
If that happened Kanes route would just... ends without start?
About Zack, the author must love him to much to kill him. Heheh
But if in serious way. Probably if that happen he may suffer some accident or die when he discover the serial killer, since....
(Spoiler)
He is the one investigating the murders in the story.
Since the story is around 70% done I think. I don't expect some other character replacing him in the story. That naturally use thappen by someone close to a character continuing the investigation.
(A last though I had is about the lion. Thinking about the girl that people think he raped could be one of the murders, since the girls just disappeared from everywhere I think. In this case he pretending he is innocent in the raping when in the real he killed her.)
You got point there rusel probably the killer I mean she literally disappeared.. I mean it does connect all em dots these innocents who brutally got killed are college students... (Including the bird , principle whatever her name is)
But... During my research.. (Idk why this and violet memoir got me thinking about these stuff... Murder mystery always been my interest)... I think either Chris the Aussie or rusel the lion these two probably the killer because all these innocent fools who got fucked (sorry...) Are college student (maybe)... So it's kind a... Either Chris nor rusell... And there's no way Ben was the one who killed them.. He hardly know them... Same thing goes to Chris and rusel but... They are mentor.. They have... Idk information about each student...
(Sorry if there's was any grammar mistake it's night I can't think of any proper words..)
I really hope that the killer didn't do it... You know... Kill one of side character... ESPECIALLY KANE... I SWEAR IF HE DIES I WILL CRY AND THE CREATOR NEED TO PAY MY THERAPY BILLS...
(Most of them the side character either died or disappeared)
While reading it I become very disturbed for weeks it is really a deep terror story.
With a lot of sadness and moments or horror with bad ends.
Even the "good ends" are like bad ends.
Trembling in fear,
Pandrine
P.S. I only didn't read the route of the girl in Echo.
Back to Santa Lucia. I have been reading Carlos and Brian routes.
Now thinking about the part of the fortune teller, maybe going to have options, if those are not already added to the story, which chooses can change the end of the story doing the dog save or not save someone. In case that part was used to tell us a tip of the future with good options doing him help and bad options do him be bad. Maybe. Maybe I should read that part again.
I would like a sex scene with Chris. But is ok if he is asexual.
Bro, I litteraly hear carlos say "I love you" in Spanish and he played it off as "Thank you" and ben fell for is SO HARD. Like, dude, he litterally said he loves you indirectly...bro, I'm so ma
Finally getting somewhere with Carlos, I'm really happy because he is adorable and the relationships in this game are believable since most of them are a really slow burn unlike 99% of VNs.
Finally got through the update and I think I got at leas one element going on thanks to the 10/3 heart to heart with Russell and an earlier scene.
Theory Includes Spoilers
I think Ben's a receiver for what's going on. Like a radio tuned into the red eyed shizz-nasty. The thing that clinched it for me is the scene on the bridge where he thought about jumping waaaay back in like the first week or so. He noticed Russell on the roof of his apartment immediately afterwards. After the bomb that gets dropped at Zach's b-day I think Ben wasn't being urged necessarily, maybe part of it. I think he was tuned into Russell's mental state.
He's actually tuning into other people's thoughts and feelings during the other PoVs. If so the level of foreshadowing that went into it all the way back at the beginning is pretty damn baller!!!
wait a minute now…… so is there still potential for Kane to have a route down the line? Because like I said before that man deserves all the love man. So please give that lovable wolfman his own route.
He's introduced in Bryan's route as part of the frat and lets his space be a refuge for Ben when he's overwhelmed. He seems to just be a genuinely good guy who wants to do right by his brothers and their friends.
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[SPOILERS] I guess?
Can I ask why xou guys decided to make all three boys bottoms? (I can only assume Nate is the same, as I am in no way interested in playing his route)
When I first found out that Carlos is a bottom, I was pretty disappointed, but I told myself “at least I can still rely on Bryan for all of my submissive desires”, but lo and behold, another bottom 😥
Is this a personal preference? Because it honestly makes no sense to my why xou wouldn’t leave at least one top (who would be willing to bottom on occasions)
A third of the reason why I read VNs is for sexual content, and when the MC tops, I usually just skip through as it’s not something I enjoy. Please tell me there will be more moments for Ben to bottom? 😟
the real twist would be there is an exclusive top but you refuse to play his route
jk but you never know....
Wouldn’t that be aweful? 😂
it would be extremely hilarious and as someone who's played Nate's content it's unironically extremely likely he's the sole character who's an exclusive top
Oh noooo 😬 the only character I don’t like is a top… Damn 😐
Why are the masculine men bottoms and the femanine one a top 😅 I sure do hope that Carlos turns out to be switch
From what I can see Carlos would be the bottom, Bryan's the switch and Nate's the top
I really do suggest trying out Nate's stuff because the entire theme of the game is the masks people put up and his was seemingly so effective it made people not want anything to do with him which I get but his content honestly shines a lot for the theme and might show it the best
nooo, bryans a bottom..?
He prefers to bottom but is willing to top 😟
he's a switch
He dicks the hell out of the mc regularly, it would be disingenuous to call him a bottom.
womp womp
Honestly I'm pretty sure Nate's the top because there's a shocking amount going on there. Or maybe switch top lean? (I say because of his existing saucy CG)
Just don't write Nate off quite yet, he wears a mask like everyone else does.
So I did end up giving his route a try, and honestly? I still don’t like him 😅 I mean, sure, he isn’t as insufferable as I had initially thought, but the fact he’s possibly lying about who he is makes me like him even less
I’ll still follow his path, but unless his reasons have meaningful validity, I doubt he’ll become someone I’d like
I guess I don't quite get it because they all are lying about who they are, and that's a big part of the story. I think I get it with Nate being the most obvious in not being (for lack of a better term) genuine.
[Spoilers]
Ben-Holds most of his thoughts in even when it's actually destroying his life.
Karina-Doesn't let anyone really get to know her and lashes out to avoid real intimacy.
Chris-Wraps so much of his identity into 'being a mentor' because he doesn't think anyone likes who he really is.
Brian-Uses the sex obsessed muscle head facade to avoid being hurt by a genuine relationship.
Carlos-Closeted for a little over half his route. Refuses help for a myriad of reasons in a myriad of ways.
Zach-Has probably looped this semester enough times to be totally shut out of his own life.
Russell-Claims he refuses to be someone else's punching bag anymore, but still has a martyr complex he hides behind snark and being flippant.
Nate-Takes on the 'gay stereotype' to reject what he was raised to be.
Wow, xou really nailed all of the characters spot on! 😁
And yeah, I can look past people covering up or trying to hide parts of themselves, but actively lying about who they are is even more of a turn off than flamboyant guys, at least for me.
So, is Nate a top ? I need to know as well XD
I can’t get enough of Bryan’s blushing grin~! ☺️
Just finished the build update and this has to be one of the most emotional part of the vn i have ever read. I was crying at end and i had to take a moment to process everything. But i still enjoyed the build and can't wait for the continue of the next part.
So,anyone can tell me which route is done now?plz
Unfortunately they are not yet done, Bryan route ends on act 3, Carlos route will probably end on act 3 and Nate will be the next one and once his done (ends on act 3) the devs can focus on act 4.
This game is a 10/10, I really love it a lot
70+ hours in the game by the way
I'm obsessed with this for no reason, maybe because I was like the main character once, but that's another story
I recommend it
So... this was a lot. I'll try to avoid spoilers but the way this VN did what I never though it would do. This story shifts in the most unimaginable ways and it really left me feeling sad (That's not a bad thing as most of the better VNs do). All I have to say is please keep working on this project as this is a great story, and I can't wait to see how it will be expanded upon.
honestly just my opinion but bryan is most regretable route and carlos route fells the most rewarding
I just wanted to ask how many routes are there and for who?
im not entirely sure but i know theres route for nate carlos and bryan and idk if others have routes beacuse it didnt seems like it (after trying i ended up in a route without anyone and it wasnt cool)
Currently just 3 for Carlos, Bryan, and Nate but more will be added. Next we will get one for Kent, then likely Chris, and after that there isn’t really an official order yet.
live laugh love bryan
It broke my heart when I saw Chris scare Ben off. But then when I saw that expression on Chris' face at the church when he grabbed Ben to stop him from leaving, my first words were "Oh, thank God" (not even thinking about the irony of that statement).
U mean Carlos.
Carlos, yeah. Not sure why I said Chris. XD
It's nice to see some good religious representation with Carlos as a Christian, can't wait to see whats done with the character!
When is the next Nate update coming out?
There's a few more Carlos updates coming, and then it will be Nate's turn!
whats the password stuff about?
Can someone clearly say whose routes will be available in the game in the future, except for the main three? Chris, as I understand, was canceled, Russell was replaced by Kane, or what?
I haven't read this VN for a long time, and the comments contradict each other...
Tnx.
They're all getting something but as for what it will be no one is sure
Oh, thank you. I was hoping that maybe the developers would respond, but perhaps even they don't know:)
They do know but they can't say much because it would spoil a lot about the inner workings of the game
Kane route got just confirmed on Patreon
Thanks for letting me know, I was also hoping for Chris, but that probably won't be happened.
Idk how much I can reveal, but Dzahn is happy because it gives him a lot of opportunities to make Chris a lot more interesting character. Kane's route had 70% votes in poll, so it's obvious win
When is the next update on Nate's route going to come out? Also when this vn is finished How much is it going to cost to download or will it be free?
For the patreon version, are the love interests the same or are there more options?
I'm just guessing since im not a patron, but im assuming the amswer is no. The love interests we have are the same for both patreon and public, the difference being is that the patron build is ahead in the story
So Russel is not a route? Guess Carlos will have to do then... Everybody else are either annoying or just not my taste
I cant install it either, it stops at like around 70% and then just says forbidden. I havent had this happen in a long time. 😭😭
is all 3 gallery room going to be open to none Patreons when this vn is fully complete?
Kane is straight up boyfriend material not pushy, nice, handsome, fit, smart, gamer, and most importantly HIS A WOLF!! PLEASE I NEED MORE KANE!!! HE SO PRECIOUS PROTECT HIM AT ALL COST!!
(Theory spoiler maybe)
According to any murder mystery movies and stuff I feel like Chris the Aussie behind all this... Acting all innocent and such idk why he giving off serial killer vibe... It's just a theory of mine..
Meow,
I think the protagonist is the serial killer having dual personality and its nightmares are part of blured dream memories he remember of when his other side is controlling his body or his other side trying to get ride of him in his head to take control in those dream fights.
At least some of them.
In worse case the end since that a terror story would be...
He killing the protagonist boyfriend in the end of the story and when he back to his normally personality the protagonist remember what happened suicide to put a end in the murders.
Maybe reading Echo really fucked my mind to much.
dunno why kind agreed with the statement maybe he is... But.......... If the protagonist actually real serial killer.... Why he didn't take the opportunity to end Zack life or Kane..
During dating part with Kane why he didn't just ya know... End Kane life right there...
Literally anyone around protagonist actually can be killed..... If his a real killer he would take that opportunity to end them one by one.. But... Rather then.... Strangers...
Meow,
This is easy!
If that happened Kanes route would just... ends without start?
About Zack, the author must love him to much to kill him. Heheh
But if in serious way. Probably if that happen he may suffer some accident or die when he discover the serial killer, since....
(Spoiler)
He is the one investigating the murders in the story.
Since the story is around 70% done I think. I don't expect some other character replacing him in the story. That naturally use thappen by someone close to a character continuing the investigation.
(A last though I had is about the lion. Thinking about the girl that people think he raped could be one of the murders, since the girls just disappeared from everywhere I think. In this case he pretending he is innocent in the raping when in the real he killed her.)
You got point there rusel probably the killer I mean she literally disappeared.. I mean it does connect all em dots these innocents who brutally got killed are college students... (Including the bird , principle whatever her name is)
But... During my research.. (Idk why this and violet memoir got me thinking about these stuff... Murder mystery always been my interest)... I think either Chris the Aussie or rusel the lion these two probably the killer because all these innocent fools who got fucked (sorry...) Are college student (maybe)... So it's kind a... Either Chris nor rusell... And there's no way Ben was the one who killed them.. He hardly know them... Same thing goes to Chris and rusel but... They are mentor.. They have... Idk information about each student...
(Sorry if there's was any grammar mistake it's night I can't think of any proper words..)
I really hope that the killer didn't do it... You know... Kill one of side character... ESPECIALLY KANE... I SWEAR IF HE DIES I WILL CRY AND THE CREATOR NEED TO PAY MY THERAPY BILLS...
(Most of them the side character either died or disappeared)
Meow,
So you should avoid stories like Echo.
While reading it I become very disturbed for weeks it is really a deep terror story.
With a lot of sadness and moments or horror with bad ends.
Even the "good ends" are like bad ends.
Trembling in fear,
Pandrine
P.S. I only didn't read the route of the girl in Echo.
Back to Santa Lucia. I have been reading Carlos and Brian routes.
Now thinking about the part of the fortune teller, maybe going to have options, if those are not already added to the story, which chooses can change the end of the story doing the dog save or not save someone. In case that part was used to tell us a tip of the future with good options doing him help and bad options do him be bad. Maybe. Maybe I should read that part again.
I would like a sex scene with Chris. But is ok if he is asexual.
why did the carlos route had to end in the worst moment ;(
So you can romance whom exactly? Carlos, Nate, Bryan and whom else? Can I romance Russell as well?
For now those are the only 3 routes. More routes are planned in the future
Is there an error in android?
I can't seem to download for some reason and it stops at 50mb constantly.
Bryan's route be like:
-Cute guy
-Niceeee
-Pain
-Kane :3
-PAIN AND REGRETS, PAAAAAAAAAAAIN
-Kane :3
- :(
It really does have you looking hard for kane. Some don't want to forgive Bryan.
Perfectly said, tbh I think I'm one of those, waiting for the Kane route
Carlos is soooo cute , really want to hug him tight and kiss him
I want to hug Carlos so badly right now...
Bro, I litteraly hear carlos say "I love you" in Spanish and he played it off as "Thank you" and ben fell for is SO HARD. Like, dude, he litterally said he loves you indirectly...bro, I'm so ma
Ben is super fking creepy in this update and I don't know how I feel about it but I do know how much second hand embarrassment I am feeling right now.
I changed my mind, I definitely hate it. Ben please stop.
did kane or chris win the vote?
the vote is going on until December although considering it's likely the both of them are getting something of some kind it doesn't matter much at all
Finally getting somewhere with Carlos, I'm really happy because he is adorable and the relationships in this game are believable since most of them are a really slow burn unlike 99% of VNs.
So ready for Carlos update :)
Justice for Kane he needs sum love the poor guy.
Just finished reading the newest update. Loved it!
Carlos route = yummy slow burn
(im burnt)
I'm the only one who wants ALL of the canine dudes?
#based #allforthebase
No I feel the same 😅
Finally got through the update and I think I got at leas one element going on thanks to the 10/3 heart to heart with Russell and an earlier scene.
Theory Includes Spoilers
I think Ben's a receiver for what's going on. Like a radio tuned into the red eyed shizz-nasty. The thing that clinched it for me is the scene on the bridge where he thought about jumping waaaay back in like the first week or so. He noticed Russell on the roof of his apartment immediately afterwards. After the bomb that gets dropped at Zach's b-day I think Ben wasn't being urged necessarily, maybe part of it. I think he was tuned into Russell's mental state.
He's actually tuning into other people's thoughts and feelings during the other PoVs. If so the level of foreshadowing that went into it all the way back at the beginning is pretty damn baller!!!
wait a minute now…… so is there still potential for Kane to have a route down the line? Because like I said before that man deserves all the love man. So please give that lovable wolfman his own route.
Right now a vote is going on Patreon in regards to that
mannnnn, I hope Kane wins, he deserves all the love man. Plus he seems like genuinely likes and cares for Ben.
so who won?
Wait a minut maybe i missed an episode, but who is kane?(you can spoil me if he's from the last update)
He's introduced in Bryan's route as part of the frat and lets his space be a refuge for Ben when he's overwhelmed. He seems to just be a genuinely good guy who wants to do right by his brothers and their friends.
Oh, in the natest update? I didn't do bryan's route, only carlos and nate ones
Understandable. I say from my place on the 'Carlos defense squad' ramparts.
Amazing update with beautiful ending. I'm totally amazed and my libido is skyrocketing now <3
A great ending for a great update! Loved it!
please i need a Chris route right now please I need i
Hardly same