Fraternity hazings happen a lot. And many students have died because of them. It's a shame they still happen.
I also hated how Ben became a slut because of Bryan, it was bad enough how incredibly unlikable Ben is, this just made him repulsive... and what Ben did to his ex was awful too. Honestly, I CANNOT get into the romance of this VN at all. The relationships are incredibly toxic, it's off-putting. Maybe that's set up for some great character development near the end, but still... it's not nice nor enjoyable, so far.
I don't think the problem is Ben wanting to have casual sex, I think the real problem and why I personally dislike Bryan's route is that Ben DOESN'T want that. This route makes you feel bad because you know that in the end Ben just wants to be with Bryan in a closed relationship and is willing to do everything he does just for the chance that he will change his mind, he's betraying himself trying to be like Bryan. In my opinion I think that Bryan's route should never even give you the option to be with him, something like Leo's route from Echo, he is not good for Ben and I think that either being alone or with Kane would make such a better option for him, being with him is the actual bad ending.
Ive just finished Bryan's route and GOD it was SO GOOD! Keep up the amazing VN and remember to take a break every now and then! Dont push yourself too much! (as push past my limits of sleep requirement... eh heh... anything for an amazing story and VN)
Hi there! I am creating a collection of fully blind accessible games, and your game is listed under the "blind support tag". The word "blind" means different things to different people, and within that wide spectrum their are various levels of expertise with visual UI's. but as a fully blind gamer, I am wondering what features this game provides for those who can not see the screen at all. Do you have "screen reader" or "text to speech" support? Is your game fully playable with a keyboard or controller, rather than having to point the mouse at buttons on the interface? If the answer to those questions is no, it would still be great to know what options are provided for those with less severe visual impairments, so that I might make them aware of your game's usability for them. Thank you for any information you can provide, it's very much appreciated! :)
Great to hear! How do you enable the text to speech option? Also, is their a textual list of controls in the game or elsewhere? And are all UI elements accessible via controller or keyboard? Are important visuals described in any way, such as with "alt text"? And do visual indicators have text alternatives? I.E icons to show status of a control, for instance. Thank you for the response :)
Haven't played this novel in a year, about a year + 4-6 months to be exact. I'm glad to see how the plot and characters develop, it will be interesting to see how everything ends up. I was quite shocked that Chris' route was cancelled, but a year later, after going through the last update, I understood why everything got such a turn. Kane came out as an interesting independent character, I'm glad that he will be given attention, that he will get his route. Nice to see the project progressing. I will follow further.
i love this game and i am glad that chris isn't datable i didn't like him at all. and i am hyped by kane. and i will be patient for russel route, that lion deserve love
yeah but the way he act or when he talked bad behing russel back make me belive to not trusting him. i feel like something was off with him. i would had loved to have the choice to trust or not trust russel when they were on camping or whatever they were.
Sorry it has to be repetitive but that is how you know the community wants it: Kane route, please? He’s so sweet to get messed up on Bryan route’s mess, and even though the main character is messed up because of the weird horror element I want to see their chemistry go on.
So I am confused is Chris supposed to be getting a route or not I was just wondering because I completed everyone's day one / prologue and I noticed Chris
***SPOILERS BELOW!!!*** Regarding side character in Bryan's route.
Kane is easily my favorite side character! He breaks the stereotype of what you'd expect a typical frat guy to be. Seems athletic yet is into video games, nice taste in music, and really kind.
I honestly was really bummed with how the MC reacted to his confession. Like I get him being conflicted with Bryan but he has this great guy that spends time with him, looks for common interests, and genuinely like him. Like when the MC "reciprocated" being asked on a date, it felt a bit hollow but again it's completely understandably.
It's obvious Bryan previously fell for someone but it turned out the other guy only wanted Bryan for sex. So to protect himself from rejection or similar pain he decides to only do hookups from then on. He's got feelings for the MC but pushes away with the FWB situation. Then Kane this sweet, adorable "good boi" comes into the picture and now I'm conflicted. I kinda want the MC to pursue Kane instead since it seems like what the MC truly wants; something more than a surface level connection as Karina somewhat mentions.
Overall LOVE this VN and hope if there's an option to make a Kane route in the future cause I'm kinda worried I'll be upset if the MC breaks his heart. I know it's likely not gonna happen but I wanna at least put it out there. Thanks again for this great VN, I look forward to build 40!
I am sure it would be fine as well, since bryan problem can either be solved by maturing or someone else in his life being much more “stable” when it comes to hook-ups but still loving and recipocrating in such way that shows he can break the cycle his life had (and trauma I guess lol) if he ever distances himself from the bad influence he has (the croc).
Its also bryan’s route, I doubt there would be a fucked up ending to their story (its just not feasible) plus that sends the worst possible message to the readers.
Currently there are 3 routes with date-able characters and there is now a no romance route for a total of 4.
In the future there will be more routes based on patron goals: the goals for Chris & Russel have been met and maintained while Zach's goal was met but is no longer at that level so I'm not sure about that one.
Huh why did they remove that?? Was a little disappointed when I came to that decision and it was like "say youre irreligious (good) , say youre irreligious (neutral), or say your irreligious (bad)" as a Christian.
But they still use that, no..? The three irreligious options have different reactions and theres no moment where you can choose a route and it just depends on which characters you spend time with the most.
Thank you so much from Brazil i see you're a developer with a non-binary mind,if you're feeling adventurous do a route for the Squirrel Girl (forgot her name now it's been a while since i played your game) which can make Ben a bisexual guy and it can appeal for the straight players too like me (i am either that or bisexual nowadays i'm more attracted to girls) too i also want Chris and the other guys route and i see many other people want too,i'm up for anything visual novel games with all options like Under The Bridge and Echo are my favourites!
Can I please name all the music playing in the game? Or at least the one that played at the moment where Ben allegedly has sex with Brian, I don't remember which chapter it is, she really sunk into my soul ehehe..
I know Ben doesn't remember much of his nightmares/dreams, but he dreamed of Hernandez's death. He had a nightmare of being called to jump down to his death and then start floating down a river...... Not to mention the bridge scene from before. There were quite a few death messages from other characters too. I don't doubt that the suspicious person Zach saw may have had something to do with it (perhaps the white cream colored coat is a clue). However, since Zach heard the call, perhaps so did Hernandez and perhaps that's all it took. I know Chris looks sus with him having been held up, but I know he didn't do it. Since he apparently dreamt up Hernandez's speech, I'm surprised he didn't ask anyone if any of what he heard was true... Did she secretly join a group every year? Was that her favorite location? Was she on the board for its conservation? There was no way for him to have access to that information if it is true. I suppose that would just freak me out more, but at least I'd know I'm not entirely crazy, idk? My name is Ben, and I speak to the dead, or rather, they speak to me.
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Fraternity hazings happen a lot. And many students have died because of them. It's a shame they still happen.
I also hated how Ben became a slut because of Bryan, it was bad enough how incredibly unlikable Ben is, this just made him repulsive... and what Ben did to his ex was awful too. Honestly, I CANNOT get into the romance of this VN at all. The relationships are incredibly toxic, it's off-putting. Maybe that's set up for some great character development near the end, but still... it's not nice nor enjoyable, so far.
Thanks for promote the vn, now I hard download this for see myself if this true or not.
I don't think the problem is Ben wanting to have casual sex, I think the real problem and why I personally dislike Bryan's route is that Ben DOESN'T want that. This route makes you feel bad because you know that in the end Ben just wants to be with Bryan in a closed relationship and is willing to do everything he does just for the chance that he will change his mind, he's betraying himself trying to be like Bryan. In my opinion I think that Bryan's route should never even give you the option to be with him, something like Leo's route from Echo, he is not good for Ben and I think that either being alone or with Kane would make such a better option for him, being with him is the actual bad ending.
SPOILERS... (kinda?)
Hmmm... The reptile caught my interest
Panda aside, in one hand we have the slit promise and the other the fat base so_
I did not realize that Russell was heterochromatic.
This game really is in one of my top 3 now
Ive just finished Bryan's route and GOD it was SO GOOD! Keep up the amazing VN and remember to take a break every now and then! Dont push yourself too much! (as push past my limits of sleep requirement... eh heh... anything for an amazing story and VN)
Hi there!
I am creating a collection of fully blind accessible games, and your game is listed under the "blind support tag". The word "blind" means different things to different people, and within that wide spectrum their are various levels of expertise with visual UI's. but as a fully blind gamer, I am wondering what features this game provides for those who can not see the screen at all. Do you have "screen reader" or "text to speech" support? Is your game fully playable with a keyboard or controller, rather than having to point the mouse at buttons on the interface? If the answer to those questions is no, it would still be great to know what options are provided for those with less severe visual impairments, so that I might make them aware of your game's usability for them. Thank you for any information you can provide, it's very much appreciated! :)
The game has a text to speech feature in it and you can indeed play the game with a controller
Great to hear! How do you enable the text to speech option?
Also, is their a textual list of controls in the game or elsewhere? And are all UI elements accessible via controller or keyboard?
Are important visuals described in any way, such as with "alt text"? And do visual indicators have text alternatives? I.E icons to show status of a control, for instance.
Thank you for the response :)
Haven't played this novel in a year, about a year + 4-6 months to be exact. I'm glad to see how the plot and characters develop, it will be interesting to see how everything ends up. I was quite shocked that Chris' route was cancelled, but a year later, after going through the last update, I understood why everything got such a turn. Kane came out as an interesting independent character, I'm glad that he will be given attention, that he will get his route. Nice to see the project progressing. I will follow further.
i love this game and i am glad that chris isn't datable i didn't like him at all. and i am hyped by kane. and i will be patient for russel route, that lion deserve love
But Chris has an extremely high cuteness level. :)
yeah but the way he act or when he talked bad behing russel back make me belive to not trusting him. i feel like something was off with him. i would had loved to have the choice to trust or not trust russel when they were on camping or whatever they were.
silly silly panda
it would be kinda funny if Brian is in love with Ben and doesn't even realize it himself.
i honestly hope that zach becomes a love interest one of these days
Hoping for a route for him as well.
i think they want finish the 3 routes before beggining others route
exelent kane will became a love interest very cool !
KANE ROUTE IS CONFIRMED !!!!! LETS GOOOOOOOOO
I have been born for this exact moment
Fr Kane route, i want to see that slow bur
YES YES YES YES YES
Sorry it has to be repetitive but that is how you know the community wants it: Kane route, please? He’s so sweet to get messed up on Bryan route’s mess, and even though the main character is messed up because of the weird horror element I want to see their chemistry go on.
So initially I wasn't actually that interested in Bryan's route but...
Any plans to do a Kane route?
So I am confused is Chris supposed to be getting a route or not I was just wondering because I completed everyone's day one / prologue and I noticed Chris
Was initially hoping for a Chris route due to the cuteness but it seems that it won't allow a route for him :(
Can you please tell me if there is a walkthrough?
The game is very linear that you don't need a walkthrough, if you want to get with X character just go down their choices
***SPOILERS BELOW!!!*** Regarding side character in Bryan's route.
Kane is easily my favorite side character! He breaks the stereotype of what you'd expect a typical frat guy to be. Seems athletic yet is into video games, nice taste in music, and really kind.
I honestly was really bummed with how the MC reacted to his confession. Like I get him being conflicted with Bryan but he has this great guy that spends time with him, looks for common interests, and genuinely like him. Like when the MC "reciprocated" being asked on a date, it felt a bit hollow but again it's completely understandably.
It's obvious Bryan previously fell for someone but it turned out the other guy only wanted Bryan for sex. So to protect himself from rejection or similar pain he decides to only do hookups from then on. He's got feelings for the MC but pushes away with the FWB situation. Then Kane this sweet, adorable "good boi" comes into the picture and now I'm conflicted. I kinda want the MC to pursue Kane instead since it seems like what the MC truly wants; something more than a surface level connection as Karina somewhat mentions.
Overall LOVE this VN and hope if there's an option to make a Kane route in the future cause I'm kinda worried I'll be upset if the MC breaks his heart. I know it's likely not gonna happen but I wanna at least put it out there. Thanks again for this great VN, I look forward to build 40!
Spoiler I guess lol
I am sure it would be fine as well, since bryan problem can either be solved by maturing or someone else in his life being much more “stable” when it comes to hook-ups but still loving and recipocrating in such way that shows he can break the cycle his life had (and trauma I guess lol) if he ever distances himself from the bad influence he has (the croc).
Its also bryan’s route, I doubt there would be a fucked up ending to their story (its just not feasible) plus that sends the worst possible message to the readers.
ngl
kinda sucks that seeing previous stuff without having to save AT the stuff is locked behind a paywall.
It is only fair, given the amount of work that goes into the project
I didn't expect it to be so long, in a good way.
(Says Ben, seeing Zach in the shower.)
I bought this because it reminds me of a certain crocodile.![](https://img.itch.zone/aW1nLzExNjYzNjI3LmpwZw==/original/57LTl7.jpg)
the pain ill feel if we wont get to romance chris will be immence LMAO
How many routes are there in total and is there a route where you go though the story but have no romantic relationship with the date able characters.
Currently there are 3 routes with date-able characters and there is now a no romance route for a total of 4.
In the future there will be more routes based on patron goals: the goals for Chris & Russel have been met and maintained while Zach's goal was met but is no longer at that level so I'm not sure about that one.
Zach's route is still happening
so how do i get the no romance route
Split your time equally between Nate, Bryan and Carlos.
is there a guide for this game? For choices
there's very little that's aeffected by choice or at least anything major
the only big thing as of right now is you won't see a dream with Carlos unless you say you're Catholic I believe
Huh why did they remove that?? Was a little disappointed when I came to that decision and it was like "say youre irreligious (good) , say youre irreligious (neutral), or say your irreligious (bad)" as a Christian.
i think it was a remnant of the affection points system
But they still use that, no..? The three irreligious options have different reactions and theres no moment where you can choose a route and it just depends on which characters you spend time with the most.
The bit with the religious beliefs is the one instance that changes anything and all it affects is getting Carlos' wet dream scene
You choose a route at the cabin class trip at the end of the first act
God i hope Kane can become an interest and NOT a casualty or the next death. Really would love a Kane route.
KANE IS SO ADORABLE AHHHH
Bruh I have the version of Salina and the Flying Rat with lyrics on my gen 2 ipod shuffle one of my favorite songs in a FVN EVER
KANE MY LOVEEE<333333333333333333
Thanks!
Cmooooooon.... its a new month WHERE IS IT
Thank you so much from Brazil i see you're a developer with a non-binary mind,if you're feeling adventurous do a route for the Squirrel Girl (forgot her name now it's been a while since i played your game) which can make Ben a bisexual guy and it can appeal for the straight players too like me (i am either that or bisexual nowadays i'm more attracted to girls) too i also want Chris and the other guys route and i see many other people want too,i'm up for anything visual novel games with all options like Under The Bridge and Echo are my favourites!
cant wait for the update
Can I please name all the music playing in the game? Or at least the one that played at the moment where Ben allegedly has sex with Brian, I don't remember which chapter it is, she really sunk into my soul ehehe..
We all need a ManyMarco in our lives...cuddling is amazing.
Spoilers/theorycrafting crazy person:
I know Ben doesn't remember much of his nightmares/dreams, but he dreamed of Hernandez's death. He had a nightmare of being called to jump down to his death and then start floating down a river...... Not to mention the bridge scene from before. There were quite a few death messages from other characters too. I don't doubt that the suspicious person Zach saw may have had something to do with it (perhaps the white cream colored coat is a clue). However, since Zach heard the call, perhaps so did Hernandez and perhaps that's all it took. I know Chris looks sus with him having been held up, but I know he didn't do it. Since he apparently dreamt up Hernandez's speech, I'm surprised he didn't ask anyone if any of what he heard was true... Did she secretly join a group every year? Was that her favorite location? Was she on the board for its conservation? There was no way for him to have access to that information if it is true. I suppose that would just freak me out more, but at least I'd know I'm not entirely crazy, idk? My name is Ben, and I speak to the dead, or rather, they speak to me.
I love this story so damn much. Playing through the most recent update at the moment.